Israel: “Peace Train” Going Off Track, Arabs Threaten “Third And Much More Severe Intifadah”

* The right answer would be “bring it on motherf*kcers..”

* An America that doesn’t dictate terms of surrender to this vermin, a superpower that instead enters into ‘negotiations’- , treating scum as equals, has no moral compass. America has lost it.


* Madrid peace-train flashback

“Peace” Train Going Off Track

By P. David Hornik

Condoleezza Rice is here again this week, this time shuttling from Jerusalem to Ramallah to Cairo in her obsessive chase after a chimera of formal peace between a tired democracy whose paramount yearning is that its sons should no longer have to be soldiers, and Muslims who regard this Jewish democracy’s existence as an affront to their deepest values and even to God Allah.

The Jerusalem Post, which regularly pronounces itself in favor of a “two-state solution,” noted in an editorial Tuesday that “While Palestinian leaders have repeatedly claimed to recognize Israel’s right to exist, they have never uttered the words ‘Jewish state.’”

In other words, since 1992 Israel, heavily urged on by the United States, has been pursuing a purported peace process with leaders—whether the openly brutal Yasser Arafat or the sedate, nicely dressed Mahmoud Abbas—who cannot bring themselves to utter that phrase.

A decade and a half ago, the pronouncement of “right to exist” without “Jewish state” was enough for Israel to set up, finance, and arm a Palestinian entity on land impinging on its population centers. Since then that entity has murdered over 1500 Israelis, mostly civilians, in terror attacks while injuring and traumatizing many thousands more—including, at this moment, the ongoing battery and traumatization of the Gaza-bordering town of Sderot with its twenty thousand residents.

Some Israelis, though, would still be willing to attribute great significance to the pronouncement of “Jewish state” by an almost-powerless leader without first requiring a transformation of Palestinian society from values of Jew-hatred and Israel-negation to values of peace and pluralism. As the Post puts it:

If, however, Abbas is willing to formally recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, and to abandon the demand for the demographic influx [of “refugees”] that would negate it, the path to substantive progress would be opened.

But even with all this dangling before him, Abbas still doesn’t take the bait. During Rice’s press conference with him in Ramallah on Monday, Rice “urged Israel and the Palestinians to agree on how and when to start formal peace talks.” Abbas, though, “responded by saying Israel would have to make concessions in order to do so.”

In other words—first concessions, then peace talks.

As for the concessions Abbas demanded—without yet having said “Jewish state”—they reportedly include

the withdrawal of Israel Defense Forces to the lines of September 28, 2000, before the second intifada erupted, the evacuation of settlements, the reopening of Palestinian institutions in East Jerusalem and the release of all Palestinian prisoners. He added that Israel must allow 13 militants it exiled in 2002 to return to the West Bank.

No report anywhere says that Rice finally started to wonder if this man really wants peace or is worth such obsessive supplication by a superpower and leader of the Free World.

Those “13 militants,” for example, were among the most senior of the terrorists who holed themselves up for weeks in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem in 2002, during which they used the Bible as toilet paper among other desecrations. The 13 incurred the rather light punishment of being deported abroad—but now Abbas wants them back in the Palestinian Authority as a condition for beginning the “peace talks.”

Rice, though, instead of having any known misgivings about this whole endeavor, shuttled off to Cairo where Egyptian foreign minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit gave her more of the same, “warning the summit may be postponed unless a substantive agreement can be reached beforehand.”

Gheit also accused Israel—that disliked entity—of “trying to undermine U.S. efforts to achieve a real peace agreement between the two sides” and said in a statement that “Without addressing these attempts, then we have to seriously think of postponing the conference to another appropriate time.”

As the conference approaches, the Arab atmosphere of bullying and threats is intensifying. Ahmed Qurei—a former PA prime minister and currently head of the Palestinian negotiating team—didn’t mince words just last Thursday when he said, “If the talks fail, we can expect a third and much more severe intifada.”


Out of respect for the horrendous toll in blood brought on by previous Israeli-Palestinian “peace” events at the White House in September 1993 and at Camp David in summer 2000, Rice should take his words seriously and end the Annapolis preparations before another disaster ensues.


A Prescription for War & Genocide — Stop the Annapolis Conference Now!!!

The history of international conferences and congresses –with or without the “peace” label– is not one to inspire confidence. Think of the conferences of Berlin [circa 1878], Versailles [circa 1918-1920], and Munich [1938]. They only laid the groundwork for future wars and massacres, the Second World War in the case of the Munich Conference. Today US secretary of state, Condoleeza Rice, arrived in Israel to pressure the basically unfit, incompetent, corrupt olmert government of Israel to make more concessions to the Arabs. She does this in the name of setting up a “palestinian state” for a fictitious people known as “palestinians” in the international media and diplomatic circles, claiming that such a state would bring peace with Israel in its wake. Yet, there never was a “palestinian” people in all history. Those now called palestinians are in fact Arabs and call themselves Arabs. The charter of the PLO states in Article I that the “Palestinian Arab people is part of the Arab nation and Palestine is part of the great Arab fatherland.” So they consider themselves Arabs first of all. Only Judeophobes pretend that they are a separate people.



The War Against The Jews


from Melanie Phillips Diary

The venomous animosity displayed by the UN towards Israel has been amply documented (if generally ignored). Now John Dugard, the UN human rights envoy for the Palestinian Territories, has vented a stream of this poison. BBC Online reports him saying that he will urge the world body to withdraw from the Quartet of Middle East mediators unless it addresses Palestinian human rights, since the US, EU, UN and Russia were failing to protect the Palestinians.

‘Every time I visit, the situation seems to have worsened,’ he said in a BBC interview. This time, I was very struck by the sense of hopelessness among the Palestinian people.’ Mr Dugard attributed this to ‘the crushing effect of human rights violations’, and in particular Israeli restrictions on Palestinians’ freedom of movement.

Yes, the Palestinians’ situation has worsened. This is principally the result of two things. a) The regime of terror instituted by the Hamas administration for which the Palestinians so unwisely voted and which is progressively making their lives a misery; and b) the restrictions imposed by the Israelis to counter the rockets which the Palestinians are lobbing at Israeli towns from Gaza, and the human bomb attacks they are ceaselessly attempting to perpetrate against Israelis. Strangely, Dugard makes no mention of either.

He said that although Israel did have a threat to its security, ‘its response is very disproportionate’.

* This is the kind of f*kcwit reasoning one has to deal with these days.

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4 thoughts on “Israel: “Peace Train” Going Off Track, Arabs Threaten “Third And Much More Severe Intifadah””

  1. “If, however, Abbas is willing to formally recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, and to abandon the demand for {the “right of return”}, the path to substantive progress would be opened.”

    — — — — —

    So what happens when: Abbas finally agrees to these terms; Israel cedes territory; then 2 weeks later Abbas is assassinated. The new Palestinian leader will of course refuse to honor the agreement. Israel will have already given away the land. Then what?

    How can you make a peace agreement with people who don’t really want peace, they just want everything you’ve got? They are not a state, they don’t have anything compelling them to follow certain guidelines or rules, they don’t have a trustworthy pattern of conduct… Making “peace” with them would be like making a treaty with one pirate ship, and hoping the dozens of others waiting just outside the harbor will honor it too, and cease attacking your merchant vessels. In reality, it’s not going to happen that way.

  2. * The War Against The Jews (UN animosity to Israel etc)

    There are (at least) two ways to destroy Israel (and Western nations – USA, Oz etc)
    The stealth method is working a treat, where direct force is being resisted, at least in part.

    Crudely connecting a few stealth dots backwards, UNESCO celebrated the 800th Anniversary of the Birth of Mawlana Jalal-ud-Din Balkhi-Rumi

    “A day of commemoration is organized at UNESCO on 6 September 2007 to celebrate the 800th anniversary of the birth of Mawlana Jalal-ud-Din Balkhi-Rumi, one of the greatest poets, philosophers and scholars of the Islamic civilization.”


    Fethullah Gulen on ABC Radio National’s Encounter
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    * Who is Fethullah Gulen? He’s been described as Turkish Islam’s Billy Graham – and you may not know it, but he is the inspiration behind much of the Muslim involvement in inter faith dialogue in Australia. And now a Chair in Islamic Studies at Australian Catholic University is to be named after him – and supported by his followers. […]

    Sound of Victoria Police Iftar

    Margaret Coffey: It’s Ramadan – another week or so to go – and the Victoria Police are hosting Iftar, the meal that breaks the daily fast. It’s the third year in a row they have done this, following an approach from a local Muslim organisation, the Australian Intercultural Society. There are several hundred people in the room, a goodly number of them blue uniformed police.

    Policeman: Yeh I just feel strongly about issues with Muslim people. I believe they are sort of on the back foot in our country because of these stereotypes. There is nothing better than to connect with people over a plate of food I believe, yeh.

    Police spokesperson:…like to thank individuals and groups who made this possible, AIS, Emre Celik and Orhan Cecic, old friends of Victoria Police and pioneers in bringing Iftar dinners to the Australian community. […]

    he Australian Catholic University based across the eastern States has entered into an agreement with the AIS to establish the Fethullah Gulen Chair in Islamic Studies and Muslim-Catholic Relations, with funding support from Gulen admirers in Turkey. It’s an extraordinary achievement for what is described as a community organisation only seven years old. The ACU has refused Encounter’s request for comment on either the Chair or the appointment process – it won’t be making a comment, I’m told, until the Chair’s occupant is announced, and that announcement is expected within a week or two. The University’s reticence is understandable: the funding of Islamic studies in Australian universities recently became a matter of controversy with the decision of Griffith University to accept up to $1 million from Saudi Arabia for its Islamic Research Unit. We’ll hear more on the relationship between the Gulen movement and universities later in the program. […]

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    Aland Mizell with the University of Texas at Dallas school of social science, President of the MCI

    The Rise of a New Ottoman Empire: The Trap of Interfaith Dialogue – By Aland Mizell

    Will Prime Minister Erdogan Give a Christmas Party with His Parliament?

    After the collapse of the communism, Fethullah Gülen, the spiritual leader of the Nur movement in Turkey, ordered his group to immigrate to the newly independent Central Asian countries. Gülen compared his followers to being today’s “sahaba,” the term referring to the journey from Mecca to Medina called the Hegira in the year 622, a journey that also marked the foundation of the Islamic State.

    (sorry if the above looks like sp@m, & if I haven’t explained it very well, but the various articles give an idea of how the West is being whiteanted by Islam, with UNESCO “honouring” its “thinkers”, Victoria Police are celebrating Iftar, Australian Catholic University is establishing Fethullah Gulen Chair in Islamic Studies and Muslim-Catholic Relations (etc).

    For the West to survive, it is time to halt Islamisation of the governments, police forces, universities & other agencies – the Trojan Horse is well & truly discharging its toxic payload everywhere.

  3. * The War Against The Jews

    Bush is warning of WW III – Israel is warning that this may be the war of Gog & Magog
    (Ezekiel 38 & 39). If so, it will be “game over” for Islam.

    ( )
    Israel Warns World War III May be Biblical War of Gog and Magog
    by Ezra HaLevi

    ( US President George W. Bush said a nuclear Iran would mean World War III. Israeli newscasts featured Gog & Magog maps of the likely alignment of nations in that potential conflict. […]

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