Some call it torture, others like it: our resident Islamo-shyster Yusuf Irfan is so obsessed with it that he puts up one pathetic blogpost after another about “torture”- something that prompted Winds of Jihad cartoonist Shem to picture Yusuf Â in his Â favorite Â S & M parlor with one of those 72 dark eyed houris cracking the whip over him…
Real Torture v/sÂ water-boarding:
Â a member of the United Arab Emirates royal family is caught on tape
- You won’t believe (well, yes you will) the latest liberal attack spin
- Obama triggers firestorm in CIA interrogation case
- Stop the witch hunt of the Bush Administration: Obama should stop the witch hunt while there’s still time.
- A President can’t placate the left and keep America safe
- GOP leaders asked to call for Napolitano resignation
The Republicans think Napolitano should resign because of the release of a report that singled out conservatives as “right-wing terrorists,” according to several GOP lawmakers.
National Security:Â The Justice Department may launch a witch hunt against those who organized the enhanced interrogation of terrorists. That’s no way to treat people who saved so many lives. More>>
- Moonbattery:Â “I want my daughter to vacation in Egypt”
President Obama’s national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week thatÂ the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.
- Hillary: Pakistan a “mortal threat” to the world
- Pakistani jihad leader wants Sharia “even in America”
Not enough torture yet? Here’s Frank Zappa:
Skip the intro, come in at 1: 45
Flies all green and buzzin’
In this dungeon of despair
Piss they clothes
Scratch their matted hair
A tiny light from a window-hole
Hundred yards away
That all they ever get to know
’bout the regular life in the day
’bout the regular life in the day
Slime and rot and rats and snuck
Vomit on the floor
Fifty ugly soldier men
Holdin’ spears by the iron door
Stinks so bad, stones are chokin’
Weepin’ greenish drops
In the den where
The giant fire puffer woiks
And the torture never stops
The torture never stops, torture
The torture never stops
The torture never stops ……….
Update: from Grand Rants
Waterboarding. Sleep deprivation. Nudity. Loud noises. Flashing lights. Stress positions.
Am I the only oneÂ who thinks this sounds like any college dorm on a Saturday night, especially if you substitute “beer bonging” for waterboarding?
Not to make light of what is, to be sure, a serious subject, but honestly. Does anyone really believe that harsh interrogation techniques were all that secret? We’re talking DC here, don’t forget, a town where everybody knows everything.
To quote from the TV showÂ West Wing: “There is no group of people this largeÂ in the world that can keep a secret. I find it comforting; it’s how I know for sure the governmentÂ isn’tÂ covering up aliens in New Mexico.”
Who knew these techniques were being used? TheÂ Wall Street JournalÂ isreportingÂ that lots of people knew:
“It was not necessary to release details of the enhanced interrogation techniques, because members of Congress from both parties have been fully aware of them since the program began in 2002. We believed it was something that had to be done in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to keep our nation safe. After many long and contentious debates, Congress repeatedly approved and funded this program on a bipartisan basis in both Republican and Democratic Congresses.”
Â The Washington Post alsoÂ reportedÂ on this back in 2007:
Yet long before “waterboarding” entered the public discourse, the CIA gave key legislative overseers aboutÂ 30 private briefings, some of which included descriptions of that technique and otherÂ harsh interrogation methods, according to interviews with multiple U.S. officials with firsthand knowledge.
With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period includedÂ PelosiÂ and Rep. JaneÂ HarmanÂ (D-Calif.) and Sens. BobÂ GrahamÂ (D-Fla.) and John D.Â RockefellerÂ IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J.Â GossÂ (R-Fla.) and Sen. PatRobertsÂ (R-Kan).
Individual lawmakers’ recollections of the early briefings varied dramatically, but officials present during the meetings described the reaction as mostly quiet acquiescence, if not outright support. “Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing,” said Goss, who chaired the House intelligence committee from 1997 to 2004 and then served as CIA director from 2004 to 2006. “And the reaction in the room wasÂ not just approval, but encouragement.”Â [emphasis mine]
Why the sudden outrage? Why the push for trials and investigations into actions approved â€” and encouraged â€” by members of Congress? Do they really think that memories are so short; that Americans are so stupid? Speaker Pelosi should tread very carefully here with herÂ talkÂ of hearings and “truth commissions” and the like.
Her constituents might not like the things she approved back then. And then where would she be?
UPDATE:Â I must be channelingÂ RightWingSparkleÂ â€” she just posted on the same topic.