Killing me softly: "Saudis reject extremism" says king

Which makes you wonder whether Solkar, our resident polit-propagandist for the Moroccan government, was not trained and indoctrinated in a Saudi madrassah, because he spouts the same nonsense:

The heart of the beast says: we reject extremism

6a0111685b4b71970c0120a5cd429c970c-800wiSaudis reject extremism, says king

Note that he didn’t say “we have to stop violent jihad otherwise the infidels might wake up and chase us out of our palaces”- he just wants the jihadists to keep the jihad out of Arabia and inadvertently suggests to continue the jihad by outbreeding the kuffars rather than bombing them to smithereens.

Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah emphasized on Wednesday that Saudi Arabia and its people subscribe to only moderate thoughts and ideas and reject all forms of extremism.

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“King Abdul Aziz National Dialogue Center aims at fighting fanaticism and extremism by spreading enlightened views,” the king said.

Last year the center trained 1,200 men and women to promote a culture of dialogue in the society, he said, adding that they had spoken to more than 160,000 people in 42 Saudi cities. The center plans to hold an intellectual forum shortly on Saudi culture.

  • Were you one of them and are your trying out your skillz on us, Solker?

17 thoughts on “Killing me softly: "Saudis reject extremism" says king”

  1. The blog-owner must be distressed, his arguments and rhetoric are proving to be misguided, over-the-top if not baseless in many points.

    Like the admission that the academic world (ie credibility) considers Spencer and his books to be only semi-non-fiction, the blog-owner can only find embarassment that what was told to him is true.

    Saudi Arabia has an utra-conservative history and it is not denied. The events after the Iranian Revolution when the then king out of fear caved in to extremists and allowed the minority wahhabists to dominate life has in fact been slowly but systematiclaly taken out of the picture. I said that at least on five different occassions but the blog-owner’s rantings continue because of his own agendas.

    I stated on this blog many times and it is there on my own as well that there has been always a pendulum-like swing between extremism and liberal-reformism and that the Iranian Revolution changed that swing and has given precedent for extremist clerics to mix with radical militancy that has resulted in what you have seen over the last 30 years, and in particular breathing life into the terrorism of the last 10.

    But, no this blog has no chance of knowing these things and if the blog-owner knows them or not is moot, because it is not supportive to his agenda to point out the realities and when given those facts is only abused, accussed and condemned.

    1. Which “academic world”, Solker? The mohammedan one?

      The whole of Islamistan reads less books than the tiny nation of Israel in a year. Your “academic world” is literally non-existent.

      I leave you with your “pendulum-like swing” and I’ll stick to the history of 1400 years of jihad warfare against the rest of the world.

      Have a nice day!

  2. Good that you got the 1400 back and not the strange 1000 that you recently have been throwing about.

    Academic world, all of it and like you admitted, you do not care.

    You have statistics to back up that rather boarish statement that there are more books in Israel than the rest of the Muslim world? I think not blog-owner, that is just another right-wing rumour that you obviosly fall for and spout.

    Literacy is low in most of the Muslim world and that is a huge number but you will find that the literate population is still greater than the number of the entire population of the State of Israel and by experience and travel I know that those that do read, do so a great deal. That has to do with a number of factors one is the most basic, printing presses are cheaper in most of these countries so books are cheaper. The other is to do with the need and pride in education, thus those that can be will struggle to ensure and capture the esesence of education, literature and study. Another factor is the “interest in the west” factor, thus Muslims tend to read their own literature as well as that of others. Her, being a fracaphone country has the interesting mix of students learning Voltaire, post-colonial Arab politics and then will read french transations of Anne Rice or Dan Brown.

    So cough up the allegations there blog-owner, I am really enthusiastic to learn from you………..

  3. The ‘1000 years of darkness’ is often used as the coming nightmare that will befall humanity if Muhammedanism succeeds in outbreeding us.

    As for books we know that Hitlers “mein Kampf’ and the libelous “protocols of the Elders of Zions” are bestsellers in the Mohammedan world. You confirmed it yourself, solker, so don’t give me the runaround. Tonight is my last night in Bangkok and I’m going out to dinner now, catch you later…

  4. Main Kampf is not for sale in Morocco & Tunisia and you must fill in a request via the Ministry of Interior to get a book-store to order it.

    The number one best seller the Arab World is a biography on the Egyptian composer, poet and musician Mohammed Abd-Wahab.

    I think it is time you stop making things up.

    Avoid Pat-Pong, you may catch something.

  5. * Avoid Pat-Pong, you may catch something.

    Avoid the “restive” South, but I doubt you need my advice on that,

  6. I stated on this blog many times and it is there on my own as well that there has been always a pendulum-like swing between extremism and liberal-reformism and that the Iranian Revolution changed that swing and has given precedent for extremist clerics to mix with radical militancy that has resulted in what you have seen over the last 30 years, and in particular breathing life into the terrorism of the last 10.
    Try the last 1400 years!
    Islam’s entire history is nothing but bloodshed.
    It is Allah’s desire, according to the prophet(piss be upon him), is it not?
    Riddle me these, Solkhar…this is the truth right from the Islamic teachings.

    Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'”

    Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

    Qur’an:8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

    Ishaq:326 “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”

    Qur’an:8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”

    Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”

    Tabari IX:42 “We have been dealt a situation from which there is no escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being terrorized.”

    Ishaq:326 “Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.’ Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.'”

    Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'”

    Bukhari:V4B52N53 “The Prophet said, ‘Nobody who dies and finds Paradise would wish to come back to this life even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to get killed again in Allah’s Cause.'”

    Bukhari:V4B52N54 “The Prophet said, ‘Were it not for the believers who do not want me to leave them, I would certainly and always go forth in army units setting out in Allah’s Cause. I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.'”

    Bukhari:V4B53N386 “Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: ‘Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.”

    Solkhar, you have no arguments unless you deny the teachings before you.
    Then you will be considered an apostate. And we all know what happens to them.

    Qur’an [4:137] Surely, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, then plunge deeper into disbelief, GOD will not forgive them, nor will He guide them in any way.

    Bukhari:V4B52N260 “The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'”

  7. Al Kida,

    Solker has no arguments, but rest assured that he will deposit the usual “out of context” droppings… he believes that’s his religious obligation.

  8. Here is another one that Solkhar should be reading

    The trilogy of so called Koranic books are nothing but evil. How they can possibly describe their prescious prophet as the perfect man, when their own book documents the life of a serial thug , paedophile and war monger who had an unbridled hatred for jews and non believers that carries through to today.

    Only the dumb, ignorant and delusional would be still believing this nonsense.

    The Koran has a history and a prevenance and it is impossible for it to be the perfect word of anyone other than a imaginative and manipulative deviant, and his followers.

    The irony is that most if the original was written in aramaic –a jewish language

  9. Dcotor who,

    please note that the Qur’an was written in Kufic Arabic, not aramaic. Suggest you get your facts correct first and not embarass yourself with dribble.

  10. I should add that Bill Warner is just another right-winger and is knowingly associated with Islam-hatred, just like Spencer and Fitzgerald of Jihad-Watch and Gellar of AtlasShrugs. They just go in circles quoting each other to justify themselves and all are not part of the academic circles – the education instutions that actually know and research things.

    The argument that Bil Warner keeps on making is that there are three books that make Islam and simply put it is incorrect, only the Qur’an makes Islam and the others are what make the existing differences and disputes between the various Muslim groups. Different haddiths are observed and followed by say wahhabists, maliki Sunnis and say the Shi’ites. The only single factor in Islam is the Qur’an.

    1. Sollkie sez:

      “Bill Warner is just another right winger truth-teller and is knowingly associated with Islam-hatred educating people about the evil of Islam, just like Spencer and Fitzgerald of Jihad-Watch and Gellar of AtlasShrugs. They are becoming increasingly popular to the detriment of the established wankers in wakademia who should get a shoe in their fat asses for their obfuscation efforts….

      Much bettter, you agree, solki?

  11. Was it not you Blog-owner who was talking about the language of smears and attacks?

    Good to see the confession at last, that you disregard and in fact attack not only main stream media but the academic world – as established wankers in wakademia with fat asses and whom obfuscate.

    Thus there is no need to continue discussions with a blog-owner who has basically confirmed that:

    1) this blog is not serious, it is only a satrical effort, and
    2) that he supports Spencer and Fitzgerald and recognised that the world’s quality education and academic institutions consider them basically as not worth it or of value.

  12. 1) Solkhar is obviously in favor of free speech if people agree with him. He is thus not in favor of freedom of speech at all. He is a totalitarian. I invite Solkhar to accept the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and leave his backward Wahabist cult!
    2) People like Sheikyermami, Spencer, Fitzgerald (while they are liberal democrats supporting freedom of speech) are not academics and do not pretend to be. Robert Spencer has an MA in religious studies and writes books, but I am not aware he teaches at a university. He responded to critics like a real scientist: “I present the work not on the basis of my credentials, but on the basis of the evidence I bring forth; evaluate it for yourself.” That is refreshing. Arab dictators want to dictate what we may read and think. No thanks, Solkhar. Go to Iran and try your tapdance there!
    3) Back to the point of this post!!! His Majesty King Abdullah is a realist. He knows that Wahabism created his dynasty, but it is also extreme Wahabism…Salafism…that is trying to destroy the dynasty! The kingdom must ‘deconstruct’ Wahabism and find a new basis for the dynasty. I don’t think they can do it. But time will tell. All Arab dictatorships have taken the convenience of absolute truth to allow them to politically murder all their opponents. Many hadiths recommend absolute obedience and submission even to evil dictators. Until the Arabs say, “We want real democracy and separation of the mosque from the state”, there will be no human rights in Islamic-majority countries.

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