1001 Barrels of Nonsensical Claims & Deceit

The Koranimals keep getting our videos removed. Here’s another one for now, will upload the other one later:

A message from David Wood:

David Wood of Answering Muslims watched “1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets” after readingPamela Geller’s article on the museum exhibit the other day at PJ Media, “1001 Pieces of Islamist Propaganda: Fabricated Exhibit Comes to D.C.” He has studied three of the five Muslim scientists the video mentioned, and almost everything Kingsley said is total nonsense. He posted a brief overview on Science and Islam as a response and said, “National Geographic should be ashamed of themselves for not checking the facts in the video.”

Our Muslim friends foes at 1001 Inventions filed a FALSE copyright infringement notification with YouTube, claiming that I simply reuploaded their video to YouTube. Copyright law protects my right to post short clips of copyrighted material for purposes of education and criticism, so 1001 Inventions was forced to file a FALSE complaint. Sadly, I had to give an Islamic supremacist group my home address as part of the counter-claim. I’m sure YouTube will restore my video as soon as they look at it, but that can take up to ten days.

I didn’t know it was possible to make so many mistakes in a 13-minute film, but when integrity has gone out the window, anything is possible.

“1001 Inventions and the Library of Secrets” is so horrendously deceptive, it will take a few videos to scratch the surface. In this first response, I discuss Islam’s contribution to science.

5 thoughts on “1001 Barrels of Nonsensical Claims & Deceit”

  1. Of course, National Geographic should be humble in admitting a lack of checking out facts. Worse, however, is that muslims think that they can shellac us with sht that has no veracity. I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised that they’d have to make up stuff about scientific achievements. Reminds me of a charter school (Gulen fake cult schools) where I taught a while back. The students won loads of math and science fairs..but the profs were the ones doing the work…so much
    for their superiority. The kids are brainwashed into believing baloney. As for me teaching, as a woman, I was treated with no respect whatsoever. I’d like to have a word with allah, smallah, moohamed and all the idiot imams putting out youtubes on HOW TO BEAT YOUR WIFE PROPERLY. These guys all need a healthy dose of whooping. They obviously feel that since they have one of those things between their legs makes them special. Funny thing is that you soon discover that few of them have a real pair..for if they did, they wouldn’t believe the bull that their culture/religion/parents/imams have shoved down their throats..in a way, I have to feel really sorry for the kids who are brought up in this way believing they are superior…and to hate women..and Jews…and pulled pork…and american girls that the Turk boys revealed are ‘all whores’, hence, they can’t date american girls. My suggestion to Mr G and his students, get thee back to Turkey where you have your sex slave hovels and treat imprisoned girls like animals that are there to service your nasty needs to be animals. Methinks that with those sex slave hovels you must be getting ready for the real mccoys, those bountiful 72 voigins just waiting for your hairy, sexless, odor filled, filthy bodies who wouldn’t know the first thing about approaching a woman anyway..how could you..you hate them all! AAARRRghh, the egos of these monsters really get to me. Is it any wonder that the son of the Hamas leader tells all on youtubes that if you believe this religion called Islam, you will end up mentally ill!

  2. etheopia had coffee first!! a sheperd boy notices his goats jumped around a lot when they ate the berries so they cooked them & drank it. the arabs “approated” the beans & refused to let other nations grow & sell for years. finaly europe got ahold of some seeds & grew their own. (history channel).

  3. @susan

    Sometimes in the near future the universe will re- balance and normalize itself, until then laugh and point…Laugh and point.


  4. Hugh Fitzgerald

    A Mostly Ridiculous Article In The Economist About A Non-Existent

    From The Economist:

    Jan. 26, 2013

    After centuries of stagnation science is making a comeback in the Islamic world


    THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined. The world’s 1.6 billion Muslims have produced only two Nobel laureates in chemistry and physics. Both moved to the West: the only living one, the chemist Ahmed Hassan Zewail, is at the California Institute of Technology.[and the other was an Ahmadi from Pakistan who is ignored there, for he is officially considered to be a “non-Muslim” so the real number is one]] By contrast Jews, outnumbered 100 to one by Muslims, have won 79.[The correct figure is 83 Amd [had the author chosen not to ignore the important Nobel awarded for “medicine” or “physiology” in his calculations, the number of Muslim winners would still remain stuck at one, but the number of Jewish winners of Nobels in science would be increased by at least 53, making the total in science — never mind mathematics, for which there is no Nobel — of 136, to one for a single Muslim, Zuwail, who received all of his scientific training, and did all of his scientific work, abroad, outside of a Muslim milieu. Perhaps he couldn’t quite stand the contrast]. The 57 countries in the Organisation of the Islamic Conference spend a puny 0.81% of GDP on research and development, about a third of the world average. America, which has the world’s biggest science budget, spends 2.9%; Israel lavishes 4.4%.

    Many blame Islam’s supposed innate hostility to science. [apparently, the word “supposed” is supposed to adequately answer all of the many detailed and coherent studies — see, for example, that of the historian of science Toby Juff, or the Jesuit historian of science Father Jaki — that show exactly that “innate hostility” to science which the author of this article thinks he can get away with dismissive pooh-poohing. It won’t do.]Some universities seem keener on prayer than study. Quaid-i-Azam University in Islamabad, for example, has three mosques on campus, with a fourth planned, but no bookshop. Rote learning rather than critical thinking is the hallmark of higher education in many countries. The Saudi government supports books for Islamic schools such as “The Unchallengeable Miracles of the Qur’an: The Facts That Can’t Be Denied By Science” suggesting an inherent conflict between belief and reason.

    Many universities are timid about courses that touch even tangentially on politics or look at religion from a non-devotional standpoint. Pervez Hoodbhoy, a renowned Pakistani nuclear scientist, introduced a course on science and world affairs, including Islam’s relationship with science, at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, one of the country’s most progressive universities. Students were keen, but Mr Hoodbhoy’s contract was not renewed when it ran out in December; for no proper reason, he says. (The university insists that the decision had nothing to do with the course content.)

    But look more closely and two things are clear. A Muslim scientific awakening is under way. And the roots of scientific backwardness lie not with religious leaders, but with secular rulers, who are as stingy with cash as they are lavish with controls over independent thought.

    The long view

    The caricature of Islam’s endemic backwardness is easily dispelled.[[“easily dispelled” by the author having to go back nearly a thousand years to find evidence of “Islamic science” — and to repeat the nonsense (see French historian Peyroux’s “Those Terrible Middle Ages” about that discredited fiction, Europe’s so-called “Dark Ages”] Between the eighth and the 13th centuries, while Europe stumbled through the dark ages[!], science thrived in Muslim lands. [oh Christ on a Crutch — there are about a dozen names, and as Ibn Warraq notes, those in science, such as Rhazes, were freethinkers, not devout Muslims, and might have been killed had they not died first]. The Abbasid caliphs showered money on learning. [perhaps he’s thinking of the Christian and Jewish translators in Baghdad, whose work was indeed supported by the state] The 11th century “Canon of Medicine” by Avicenna (pictured, with modern equipment he would have relished) was a standard medical text in Europe for hundreds of years. In the ninth century Muhammad al-Khwarizmi laid down the principles of algebra, a word derived from the name of his book, “Kitab al-Jabr”. Al-Hasan Ibn al-Haytham transformed the study of light and optics. 3Abu Raihan al-Biruni, a Persian, calculated the earth’s circumference to within 1%. And Muslim scholars did much to preserve the intellectual heritage of ancient Greece; centuries later it helped spark Europe’s scientific revolution. [where does the author of this piece get his information: does he know exactly what texts were preserved and translated, and by whom? The translators were Christians and Jews, both in Baghdad and in Cordoba, not Muslims. Perhaps their arabized names has fooled him. He could read, if he chose, Toby Huff, or other historians of science — George Sansom for example — to find out about the “Islamic contribution” to science, a “contribution” that ends about a thousand years ago in any case, when the Christian and Jewish populations had been sufficiently reduced, through conversion to Islam, and that fructifying portion of the population could no longer conduct science as it had. Many of the “Islamic” scientists were Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians with arabic names or in some cases, just a generation or two removed from parents or grandparents who were Jews or Christians or Zoroastrians, and they were raised in a non-Islamic milieu]. ]

    Not only were science and Islam compatible,[this is a bland assertion that the texts of Islam flatly contradict] — Ar-Rhazes, the most famous man of science, was a freethinker, and several of those listed in the previous paragraph but religion could even spur scientific innovation. Accurately calculating the beginning of Ramadan (determined by the sighting of the new moon) motivated astronomers. The Hadith (the sayings of Muhammad) exhort believers to seek knowledge, “even as far as China”.

    These scholars’ achievements are increasingly celebrated. Tens of thousands flocked to “1001 Inventions”, a touring exhibition about the golden age of Islamic science, in the Qatari capital, Doha, in the autumn. More importantly, however, rulers are realising the economic value of scientific research and have started to splurge accordingly. Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah University of Science and Technology, which opened in 2009, has a $20 billion endowment that even rich American universities would envy.

    Foreigners are already on their way there. Jean Fréchet, who heads research, is a French chemist tipped to win a Nobel prize. The Saudi newcomer boasts research collaborations with the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, and with Imperial College, London. The rulers of neighbouring Qatar is bumping up research spending from 0.8% to a planned 2.8% of GDP: depending on growth, that could reach $5 billion a year. Research spending in Turkey increased by over 10% each year between 2005 and 2010, by which year its cash outlays were twice Norway’s.

    The tide of money is bearing a fleet of results. In the 2000 to 2009 period Turkey’s output of scientific papers rose from barely 5,000 to 22,000; with less cash, Iran’s went up 1,300, to nearly 15,000. Quantity does not imply quality, but the papers are getting better, too. Scientific journals, and not just the few based in the Islamic world, are citing these papers more frequently. A study in 2011 by Thomson Reuters, an information firm, shows that in the early 1990s other publishers cited scientific papers from Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey (the most prolific Muslim countries) four times less often than the global average. By 2009 it was only half as often. In the category of best-regarded mathematics papers, Iran now performs well above average, with 1.7% of its papers among the most-cited 1%, with Egypt and Saudi Arabia also doing well. Turkey scores highly on engineering.

    Science and technology-related subjects, with their clear practical benefits, do best. Engineering dominates, with agricultural sciences not far behind. Medicine and chemistry are also popular. Value for money matters. Fazeel Mehmood Khan, who recently returned to Pakistan after doing a PhD in Germany on astrophysics and now works at the Government College University in Lahore, was told by his university’s vice-chancellor to stop chasing wild ideas (black holes, in his case) and do something useful.

    Science is even crossing the region’s deepest divide. In 2000 SESAME, an international physics laboratory with the Middle East’s first particle accelerator, was set up in Jordan. It is modelled on CERN, Europe’s particle-physics laboratory, which was created to bring together scientists from wartime foes. At SESAME Israeli boffins work with colleagues from places such as Iran and the Palestinian territories.[this is one more of those Israeli efforts to win some acceptance but no one should be fooled into taking too seriously the Muslim contributions to these things]

    Science of the kind practised at SESAME throws up few challenges to Muslim doctrine (and in many cases is so abstruse that religious censors would struggle to understand it). But biology—especially with an evolutionary angle—is different. Many Muslims are troubled by the notion that humans share a common ancestor with apes. Research published in 2008 by Salman Hameed of Hampshire College in Massachusetts, a Pakistani astronomer who now studies Muslim attitudes to science, found that fewer than 20% in Indonesia, Malaysia or Pakistan believed in Darwin’s theories. In Egypt it was just 8%.

    Yasir Qadhi, an American chemical engineer turned cleric (who has studied in both the United States and Saudi Arabia), wrestled with this issue at a London conference on Islam and evolution this month. He had no objection to applying evolutionary theory to other lifeforms. But he insisted that Adam and Eve did not have parents and did not evolve from other species. Any alternative argument is “scripturally indefensible,” he said. Some, especially in the diaspora, conflate human evolution with atheism: rejecting it becomes a defining part of being a Muslim. (Some Christians take a similar approach to the Bible.)

    Though such disbelief may be couched in religious terms, culture and politics play a bigger role, says Mr Hameed. Poor school education in many countries leaves minds open to misapprehension. A growing Islamic creationist movement is at work too. A controversial Turkish preacher who goes by the name of Harun Yahya is in the forefront. His website spews pamphlets and books decrying Darwin. Unlike his American counterparts, however, he concedes that the universe is billions of years old (not 6,000 years).

    But the barrier is not insuperable. Plenty of Muslim biologists have managed to reconcile their faith and their work. Fatimah Jackson, a biological anthropologist who converted to Islam, quotes Theodosius Dobzhansky, one of the founders of genetics, saying that “nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution”. Science describes how things change; Islam, in a larger sense, explains why, she says.

    Others take a similar line. “The Koran is not a science textbook,” says Rana Dajani, a Jordanian molecular biologist. “It provides people with guidelines as to how they should live their lives.” Interpretations of it, she argues, can evolve with new scientific discoveries. Koranic verses about the creation of man, for example, can now be read as providing support for evolution.

    Other parts of the life sciences, often tricky for Christians, have proved unproblematic for Muslims. In America researchers wanting to use embryonic stem cells (which, as their name suggests, must be taken from human embryos, usually spares left over from fertility treatments) have had to battle pro-life Christian conservatives and a federal ban on funding for their field. But according to Islam, the soul does not enter the fetus until between 40 and 120 days after conception—so scientists at the Royan Institute in Iran are able to carry out stem-cell research without attracting censure.

    But the kind of freedom that science demands is still rare in the Muslim world. [the “kind of freedom” that is required is completely antithetical to the letter and spirit of Islam, which the writer of this article cannot bring himself to admit] With the rise of political Islam, including dogmatic Salafists who espouse a radical version of Islam, in such important countries as Egypt, some fear that it could be eroded further still. Others, however, remain hopeful. Muhammad Morsi, Egypt’s president, is a former professor of engineering at Zagazig University, near Cairo. He has a PhD in materials science from the University of Southern California (his dissertation was entitled “High-Temperature Electrical Conductivity and Defect Structure of Donor-Doped Al2O{-3}”). He has promised that his government will spend more on research. [is The Economist able to judge the worth of Morsi’s dissertation? Does it know the conditions of its writing, since there are so many cases, all over the Western world, of Gulf Arabs, and other well-off Muslims, paying non-Muslims to write not only their college papers, but also their doctoral dissertations — as used to be done by Russians, too, for much richer foreigners who were getting degrees at Soviet universities].

    Released from the restrictive control of the former regimes, scientists in Arab countries see a chance for progress. Scientists in Tunisia say they are already seeing promising reforms in the way university posts are filled. People are being elected, rather than appointed by the regime. The political storms shaking the Middle East could promote not only democracy, but revive scientific freethinking, too.

  5. “Released from the restrictive control of the former regimes, scientists in Arab countries see a chance for progress.”

    Yes, well, seeing and doing are two different things.

    It’s all in the peer review and published papers, when that happens, then it is believable and not propaganda.

    Ultimately, this is just another false inflation of Islam.

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