“Ottomans Were The First to Reach The Moon,” says Turkish President


There is nothing Muslims didn’t discover or invent: they invented the wheel, the electric lightbulb, the motorcar and the space shuttle; they discovered America, Australia, and Muhammad never killed anyone; and Mohammedanism spread peacefully around the world, and BS walks and Erdogan talks. And the world laughs.

Bear in mind that this is the PM of Turkey. A dangerous lunatic.

“Ottomans Were The First to Reach The Moon,” says Turkish President

 Istanbul| Ottomans were the first to walk on the surface of the moon, not Neil Armstrong, said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, yesterday, during an iftar (fast-breaking) dinner hosted by the Turkish Green Crescent. 

Mr. Erdoğan claimed that Muslim explorers reached the Moon more than 300 years before the beginning of the Appolo program, vowing to build a mosque “in the crater” where they landed.

“It is alleged that the first man to walk on the moon was Neil Armstrong in 1969,” Erdoğan said. “In fact, Muslim space explorers reached our satellite 334 years before that, in 1635. Everyone knows the story of the famous aviator, Lagâri Hasan Çelebi, the “Ottoman Rocket Man”, who made the first successful manned rocket flight in 1633. What you might not know, is that he attempted to reach the moon, two years later, and could very well have succeeded!”

The story of Lagari Hasan Çelebi was purported by a famous 17th century Arab merchant and traveller, Mehmed Zilli, also known as Evliya Çelebi. In his famous travelog, he explains that Lagari Hasan Çelebi launched in a 7-winged rocket using 50 okka (63.5 kg or 140 lbs) of gunpowder. It took off from Sarayburnu, a site below the Topkapı Palace in Istanbul.

As Evliya Celebi wrote, Lagari proclaimed before launch “O my sultan! Be blessed, I am going to talk to Jesus!”, before lighting the rocket’s gunpowder.  He then ascended more than 200 meters in the air and landed in the sea, hundreds of meters from his takeoff point. Swimming ashore, he allegedly reported: “O my sultan! Jesus sends his regards to you!”.


President Erdoğan’s surprising claim generated some whispers and laughter from the audience, a reaction that clearly angered the Turkish politician. He slammed the skeptics for mocking his claims, adding that he would soon have the proofs to back his claims.

“Why do you not believe it? Because you’ve never believed that a Muslim can do such a thing, just like you’ve never believed that our ancestors could manage to launch ships in the Golden Horn after transporting them across land,” Erdoğan said, referring to Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II’s conquest of Istanbul in 1453. “This claim is not new. A number of academics in Turkey and in the rest of the world have made this claim, and I believe they are right. NASA may have destroyed most of the physical evidence of the Ottoman’s success during the Apollo 11 mission, but we’ll try to find any evidence that might have escaped the cover up.”

The Turkish President did not, however, give any precision about the proofs he was expecting to find nor how he was hoping to gather them.


The story of Lagâri Hasan Çelebi is considered a legend by most historians, and most experts believe that it is impossible that the “aviator” could have survived a flight into outer space.

His first flight was, indeed, addressed in an experiment by the television show MythBusters, on November 11, 2009, in the episode “Crash and Burn”.  The rocket constructed for the TV show did not adhere closely, however, to Evliya Çelebi’s descriptions and the final design did not attempt to utilize materials of the period;

The team noted that Evliya Çelebi had not sufficiently specified the alleged design used by Lagâri Hasan, but concluded that it would have been “extremely difficult” for a 17th-century figure, without access to modern steel alloys and welding techniques, to land safely or even achieve thrust at all. This conclusion was backed by the fact that, although the re-imagined rocket rose, it exploded in midflight

10 thoughts on ““Ottomans Were The First to Reach The Moon,” says Turkish President”

  1. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/the-myth-of-islamic-science

    “The notion of a golden age of Islamic learning is a myth created to counter the current sorry state of intellectual life in the Islamic world.” Indeed so. A provocative perspective from India: “The Myth of Islamic Science,”


    “Bear in mind that this is the PM of Turkey. A dangerous lunatic.”

    Nothing wrong with what Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan says .

    If the Turkish President says something about Muslims all the Muslims believe it.

    If the American president says something about America all the Americans believe it.

    What is the difference?

    1. @Daniel Diamond……

      ………”If the American president says something about America all the Americans believe it……What is the difference?……”

      Largely wrong Daniel, yet the element of truth in that statement wrought from our (Western culture and society) collective slide into a sea of apathetic mediocrity, into a state of suicidal, self absorbed indifferent ignorance where we, as a civilized society, have lost the power of original thought, original thought tempered with education, commonsense and a desire for self-determination.

      We, Western citizens, have abdicated our responsibilities and obligations as members of that civilized society and are now consumed with our “rights”, are now consumed with the trivial, the superficial, the selfish, the utterly ridiculous and the intellectually bankrupt. We have lost the power of original thought and now relegate the stewardship of a nation and the ebb and flow of our daily lives to Marxist Mass Media and a collection of corrupt and criminal politicians and bureaucrats.

      Here is a quote from something I scribbled off a few years ago…….

      ………..”“Regardless of positions of influence, regardless of place of birth, regardless of the family’s history of previous generations of citizens…….ALL MUSLIMS MUST GO!!!

      There are coffee shops and wine and cheese parties filled with the tediously enlightened, the grotesquely “academic”, the sneering intelligentsia, little more than a revolting collection of the dull-witted and criminally liberal who know what we are facing but still they dither, still they haughtily dismiss calls for deportation as “radical”, and yet still Islam advances, still Islam moves forward and slowly, bit by bit, Islam chews its way into their lives, destroying their culture, destroying their heritage and destroying the very democracy they claim to hold so dear and, vacuous and dithering, all they can do is burden themselves with a decision no more troublesome than choosing between cheddar or Gouda.

      As a nation, Islam is the elephant in the room that we ignore to our considerable detriment and this elephant is not shy about making its presence known. It has trampled the furniture and we ignore it, it has vacated its bowels painting every wall with a fecal soup and still we ignore it, it has murdered and maimed us and still, ever the cowards, all we can do is, apologetically and politely, hold aside the pachyderm’s pendulous testicular sack and, peeking through its legs whilst sipping English Breakfast with pinkies extended, make polite inquiries of our fellows as to their opinion on the latest floral pattern rolled out by the boys at Royal Doulton.

      We are a nation of Neroesque fools, fiddlesome idiots quarrelling over hors d’oeuvres and, Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury,…..the strains of our lunacy reminds me of a line from the poem “Locksley Hall” by Alfred Lord Tennyson……..to wit:

      “Slowly comes a hungry people, as a lion, creeping nigher, Glares at one that nods and winks behind a slowly-dying fire.”

      Ladies and Gentlemen we are the sleepy one, drifting off as the fires of Western civilization burn down to little more than embers of sullen indifference, and I hope, in my heart of hearts, that the poets and singers of song, that the writers of tomes historical a thousand years hence, when they rise against the unbearable boot heel of Islamic fascism draw us for who we really are: a nation of ungrateful treasonous cowards who let slip from our hands the toil of patriots and true citizens of what was once, the greatest country and republic in the history of Mankind.

      Oh how richly we deserve ourselves, and tragically, how our children do not, oh how worthy of the contempt of God himself.

      So, my friends, you and I know it, the vast majority of Canadians and Americans know it, that sooner or later this will come to blood and so it should, so it should.

      But, on the backs of our timidity and frailty, if it does not, and we continue to tread this ruinous path and the boot-heel of Islamic masters slowly crushes our miserable spineless necks into the dust of obscurity and servitude, then my friends, we will deserve it, every agonizing, miserable, humiliating and injurious minute of it.

      Then, as said, above, our generations that will follow, our wives and daughters so failed and miserably dependant on our manhood, our wives and daughters, their lives an agony of humiliation and degradation, their lives an agony of rape and murder, our wives and daughters made whores in Muslim brothels.

      And what of our sons? Our sons, looking to their fathers and finding only cowards and traitors, our sons, emasculated whelps, our sons made sodomized, grovelling lapdogs to Muslims, all, each and every son and daughter, one born into Muslim slavery and abject misery, they will not deserve it and they will righteously hate us more than their Muslim tormentors and masters for our cowardice and treachery.

      So listen closely Western Civilization; for in our abdication of our responsibilities as the children of the founding fathers of our nations, those men of vision, those men of courage of conviction, men with incredible depth of character and resolve, men far greater than we, in our willingness to smear the steaming excrement of Muslims on those gifts given us by those great men, can be heard the ringing hammer blows that are forging the shackles to be worn by countless generations hence”……………….

      -Of Pachyderms and Porcelain, by Don Laird


      There you go Mr. Diamond……just me rattling off again. Not all citizens tow the party-line, there are the few who know corruption and treason when they see it, the same people who are loathe to call corruption and treason by any other name. It is those few we must encourage, those few we must look to for as seen on virtually every blood soaked, maddening page of history…………it has always been the few who have paved the way for the many.

      Regards, Don Laird
      Dogtown Bastard
      Alberta, Canada

    2. I don’t believe a word Obama says. He is a jerk. Left wing ideologue. Overeducated idiot. Americans are not (yet) brainwashed to believe their eternal leader. They will fight for him, stand as one under him, but no, we don’t hav eto believe him. Free speech, still here sort of.

  2. Wow!!! Another first from isamic science! This one’s right up there with mohammd islamic medicine advice on flies’ wings and camel piss.

    Obviously to get to the moon is quite a feat for anybody , let alone this 17th century islamic genius. The article must have left many discoveries unmentioned. For example, he’s overcome some of the limitations imposed by infdel Isaac Newtons famous laws of thermodynamics.

    But of course, no infidel’s laws should be obeyed by muslims.

    If only Nasa could have discovere how to go to the moon and back on less than 70kg of gunpowder. Not only that – how to make gunpowder burn in the vacuum of space.

    And clearly the muslim must have been very skilled in metallurgy in order to make tanks to store enough breathable air for the trip. He quite possibly invented the electric motor too, needed in order to compress the air, not to mention nitrile compression rings etc.

    What an amazing feat. I truly hope Mr Erdogan promotes this story far and wide – especially in front of a full Euro Parliament at Turkey’s next session of pleading to be allowed into the EU.

  3. Turks who disagree with Erdogan discover that it is a health hazard.

  4. Arab(+assimilated) islams are (The Borg) in Startrek …

    Comment about Obnoxious Arab islam Culture
    #8 – The Borg (ie islam): galactic Skynet.
    Diplomacy is futile – (islam Appeasing is pointless – and you will only endanger Humanity and create yourself being guilty of Treason and Sedition)
    You can’t reason with them – (an islam must Convert/Subjucate/Kill ALL Humanity – ie Terrorise YOU into Submission)
    You can’t bargain with them – (an islam must Takiyya/Tawriya/Kitman/Muruna about islam to Humans – ie Consciously & Continually Lie)
    They don’t feel pity, or fear, or remorse, and – (a Sociopath Personality – Transformations/Brainwashings Guaranteed for The Brain Dead )
    They absolutely will not stop attacking you ever until you and every last member of your culture and species are assimilated – (to dumb -via inbreeding- to realise their JIG is NOW up)

    Sound familiar?
    If it …
    looks like an Arab(+assimilated) islam and
    walks like an Arab(+assimilated) islam and
    talks like an Arab(+assimilated) islam
    – IT IS !
    – and needs STERILISATION – because inbreeding is TO SLOW !
    (and that is the cure for the Arab(+assimilated) islam Plague)

    Keeping in mind that the only REAL Arab(+assimilated) islam is a “Genetically Pure Arab
    – every “Other” islam can only FOREVER be an Arab islam’s SLAVE !!!!
    qur’an validated !!

  5. It is a sign of muslim desparation to be recognized that they create and then believe their own idiotic myths. The evidence of muslim stupidity is embedded in what they say and what they do!!



    No shit, seriously, you, can’t make this shit up, an Imam tells a story about how he converted domestic livestock to Islam…….some dude put the sermon of the Imam to the music of the “Chicken Dance”…..but the Muslim is dead serious about his chickens……..

    And this………this is what we are putting nuclear weapons into the hands of?…….

    The Muslim and its Islam; The Horses Ass of Humanity!!!!

    Regards, Don Laird
    Dogtown Bastard
    Alberta, Canada

  7. Why didn’t he then come back and tell everyone that the Earth is a sphere rather than flat as they believed then?

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