Category: General

Israel set to dump CNN

* Because paying for the Caliphate News Networks ‘services’ is an insult to anyones intelligence.

By CRAIG NELSON
Cox News Service

JERUSALEM – With negotiations over a new contract at a stalemate, Israel’s largest cable provider is set to bump CNN from its program roster at the end of the month.

The news that the Atlanta-based network might soon disappear from a majority of Israeli living rooms will probably not come as a disappointment to a vocal segment of the Israeli viewing public that views the cable network’s coverage of Israel and the Middle East as biased against the Jewish state.

Yet the same crowd is unlikely to be very happy with this week’s announcement about the channel that the cable and telecommunications company HOT is poised to sign to a contact instead: Al-Jazeera English.

Yossi Lubaton, a spokesman for HOT, says a deal with the controversial Qatar-based news network is imminent. It “should be finalized within a few days,” the Israeli English-language daily Jerusalem Post quoted him as saying.

Lubaton insisted that price is the only issue in the contract dispute. The British Broadcasting Corp., Sky News, Fox News and Al-Jazeera charge less for their signal than CNN, he said.

* At least there is more honesty on Al Jizz, or at least you know what their agenda is.

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Islamofascist Awareness Week Raises …Awareness..!

* Shouted down, vilified, accused of everything from ‘racism/bigotry/xenophobia/Islamophobia’ and ‘right wing extremism’-, a small group consisting of Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes, David Horowitz and a few others embarked on a speaking tour to some American universities. Few wanted to hear their message and many tried everything they could to boycott the message from being heard.

* Some listened and didn’t like what they saw:

LETTER TO THE EDITOR

Many Muslims seemed to favor radical Islam

Before this week, I felt convinced that all Muslims don’t sympathize with terrorism. I figured that out of 1.5 billion Muslims, very few actually sympathize and support radical Islam.

Things changed a bit after former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum’s speech on Tuesday.
Santorum made a point of identifying that within Islam, there is the ideology of Islamo-Facism.

He in no way said that all Muslims were evil, just those who were in the sub-genre of radical Islam. Santorum’s father was an Italian during World War II, where there was the threat of fascism. Santorum said that his father acknowledged that Benito Mussolini was evil.

You don’t have to think all Italians were evil, just those who subscribed to Italian-Facism.

At the speech, many Muslims spoke up about Santorum’s speech. Out of the Muslims that spoke out, almost all criticized Santorum as being ignorant and spewing hatred.
If you criticize someone because they speak out against radical Islam, then it would seem you support radical Islam. This led me to believe that all those Muslims identified themselves with Islamo-Facism.

Now, I’m starting to think that maybe, more Muslims sympathize with terrorism than I thought.

I don’t want to believe this, but I can’t seem to refute what I saw.

Len Torchia
junior-electrical engineering

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Some deliberations:

* Islam gets a free pass from these “students”, while remaining unexamined.

* Intellectual dereliction of duty seems to be the common trait of these kneejerk protesters.

* Read the Koran, then try to defend it…

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* Einstein said that repeating the same action over again expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

You won’t believe this:

Rice taps Clinton, Carter for Middle East advice

Condi talks about GWB:

The Idiot Trifecta

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Anxious not to repeat mistakes of past Middle East peace-making, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has turned to former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for tips ahead of her own conference this year.

Rice invited Carter, a vocal critic of Bush administration policies, to the State Department on Wednesday where the two discussed his Arab-Israeli peacemaking efforts in the 1970s, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said on Friday.

Their talks were “good and cordial,” he said. They focused on the Middle East and not Carter’s recent criticism of President George W. Bush’s policies in Iraq and elsewhere.

A Soviet specialist, (?) Rice also telephoned another former Democratic president, Bill Clinton, who tried, and ultimately failed, in his eight years in office to bring the Israelis and Palestinians together.

“She’s trying to draw on the historical record and the experiences of others to see — see what she can glean and how that may be applicable to the current day,” McCormack said.

“She is a student of history and has a keen appreciation for how we can apply the lessons of history, what we can learn from those who have gone before us,” he said.

Other sources of advice have been former U.S. negotiator Dennis Ross and ex-secretaries of state James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. Rice meets frequently for lunch with Albright, whose father taught Rice at Denver University.

* The worst bunch of losers ever. On the double.

Rice has made clear she will devote all her energy in the Bush administration’s final 14 months to get what others have failed to attain in the past — an (un-) viable, in-dependent parasitic Palistan living side by side with an (in-) secure Israel.

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* When the clueless follow the lame and the blind, when affirmative action becomes an unbearable embarrassment, when failure after failure stares you in the face like the dead terrorist you just killed, will you still go on asking those who made the same mistakes before you?

* There is only one argument now: which was the worst, the dumbest US administration ever? Peanut Khadr, Willie Clitman or George W. Bush’s?

* Moonbat attack on Rice? Not only: the attacker with the red hands is Desiree Anita Ali-Fairooz, not simply a code pink moonbat, but a Muhammedan agit-prop…

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Fitzgerald: Rice’s ignorance is matched only by her incomprehension.

Rice’s ignorance is matched only by her incomprehension. She still thinks that territorial “compromise” is the path to peace – “compromise” in this case meaning continued Israeli surrender of territory to which it has a legal, historic and moral claim (including the claims under the League of Nations’ Mandate for Palestine, which she really should take the time to read and study. She should then also to read and study about the history of the non-Arabs and non-Muslims in what she seems to think is “the Arab world”).

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* A proper Muslim toilet doesn’t have a toilet seat or toilet paper. But Muslims have 70 rules and regulations how to urinate and defecate:

“Saudi Cleric Muhammad Al-Munajid: Western ‘Beasts’ Use Colored Underwear to Conceal Their Filth,” from MEMRITV:

“There are rules of shari’a in everything. We have counted almost 70 rules about how to urinate and defecate. In contrast, how do those beasts in the West answer the call of nature? They stand in front of other people, in toilets at airports and other public places. They do not care about covering their private parts. Even their underwear is colored and not white, so it can conceal all that filth. We are a nation that has long known the meaning of cleanliness, what to do when nature calls, and what the rules of hygiene are. The others, to this day, live like beasts. To this day, many of them are not circumcised, even though the World Health Organization has advised to circumcise people as a treatment for AIDS, because it has been scientifically proven that circumcised people are less susceptible to AIDS, and are less likely to spread it than uncircumcised people.’

Other important things to know about Islam:

Do not urinate in holes – Jinns live there AD1-7-29

Bones and dung are food for Jinns B5-126-200, M1-244-903, AD1-9-39

Bones are food for Jinn; Camel dung is fodder for their animals M1-244-903

Charcoal is food for jinns AD1-9-39

Quran/hadith index

Rome, 26 Oct. (AKI) – The imam of the Lazio town of Latina’s mosque, Sheikh Yusuf on Friday heckled interior minister Giuliano Amato as he visited Rome’s mosque to present the new ‘charter of values’ for immigrants.

“There is a toilet seat cover on sale in local stores that features verses of the Koran. This is an insult to the Muslim faith that we must react to,” he called out.

* He immidiately called for violent jihad and for the killing of all unbelievers with Koranic toilet seats… (just joking) But would it surprise you if he did?

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Amato however reassured Yusuf, saying: “I would like to tell our friends from Latina that we have been informed of this matter and are taking action because it is offensive.”

“Developed in consultation with various religious and civil society representatives, it establishes the principles for the harmonious integration in Italian society of non-Catholic communities.”

The charter, which has symbolic rather than legal value, is aimed at immigrants belonging to Muslim and other faiths and highlights the “values and principles that make up Italian identity and which are rooted in the Italian Constitution.”

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This is what happens when commie organizations team up with Islamofascists to bring down democracy, the rule of law and the constitution.

Tariq Ramadan is hardly an ‘intellectual’ and he is not ‘one of the worlds leading scholars of Islam’- but more than anything a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and a Muhammedan agit-prop par excellence. His maternal grandfather Hassan al Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. His father, Said Ramadan, was a prominent figure in the Muslim Brotherhood as well. His brother, Hani Ramadan is also a Muslim activist and resides in Geneva, where he is a French teacher and the director of the Islamic Centre of Geneva.

Ramadan is a two faced SoB with one message for his non-Muslim interlocutors and another, slightly more colorful message for his fellow Muslims. Ramadan believes that the sharia should replace ‘man-made’ law and public beheadings and stoning of people guilty of adultery are in order.

The Brotherhood is being absolutely relentless in their quest to get Tariq Ramadan into America. Each time their efforts are thwarted, they find another way to come at the problem.

Link to AFP

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* What Frere Tariq has to say is often enough said by the likes of Anjem Choudary, a British-born self-styled cleric and others like Omar Bakri Mohammed, who say that followers of Islam could not accept the authority of a secular state.

* Omar Bakri Mohammed spoke in a video message to the debate where Muslim fundamentalists and moderates argued the motion that Islam is incompatible with western liberal society.

Lebanon-based Mr Mohammed, who lost his asylum status in Britain after saying the British people brought the London bombings on themselves, said Islam was a complete way of life that could not yield to any other way. “Islam is a complete system of living, the Sharia system. Islam has political beliefs — it cannot co-exist with another political belief.”

He added: “There will be strife. It could be political, it could be ideological, it could be military struggle.”

* Moderate Muslims follow in the story, saying that Chaudary and Bakri are twisting Islam, but not explaining how or why, or what can be done to blunt their appeal among Muslims.

* War is Deceit

Scanners Paying Even More Attention To Routine Objects

You can listen to sheik yer’mami’s shoebomber here

NEW YORK (CBS News) ―The joint FBI-Homeland Security bulletin, obtained by CBS News today, bluntly warns that terrorists are still working to use “modified footwear as a concealment method for explosive devices,” CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports.

The alert follows the discovery of bomb detonators – expertly hidden in the hollowed-out soles of this pair of shoes – found aboard a European bus last month.

Intelligence officials say the shoes were not being worn at the time, but instead were being used, as the document says, “to smuggle electric blasting caps across international borders for use in a terrorist attack.”

“The terrorists have an interest in explosive devices. They are trying to figure out the best way to push them, to move them through the system,” said CBS News counterterrorism analyst Paul Kurtz.

Shoes have been used by terrorists before.

Three months after 9/11, al Qaeda operative Richard Reid tried to blow up an American Airlines jet with a shoe bomb similar to the one shown in this test.

Now at U.S. airports, scanners X-ray all passengers’ shoes and carry on bags, searching for explosives.

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Michelle Malkin has more

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Bucktooth Bashir ‘invites’ Bush to Islam (again)

Islamic cleric behind Bali bombing: If Bush “wants to be safe he should take up Islam”

* Its not that Bush hasn’t been ‘invited’ before by none other than Osama Bin Laden himself. These invitations usually come before an attack. OBL’s right hand man, the Egyptian medicine man Ayman Al Zawahiri also extended his invitation a while ago and Iran’s A-mad-in-jihad also called America to Islam.

* Ridiculous? Not if you understand how the mind of a Muhammedan works:

* Lets take a look at the hadith, the traditions and sayings about the profit:

Muhammad tells his followers to call people to Islam before waging war against them:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them….If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [the tax on non-Muslims specified in Qur’an 9:29]. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them. (Sahih Muslim 4294)

Interview by Philip Smucker

SOLO, Indonesia – Even as Indonesia has gained the upper hand against religiously-inspired extremism, the spiritual mentor behind the Bali bombings, Abu Bakar Ba’asyir, says he is confident that both time and Allah are on his side. He says that events across the Islamic world are conspiring to destroy the “crusade” of his greatest enemy, United States President George W Bush.

“Bush is a very stubborn man,” says Ba’asyir, reclining in a white shirt and plaid waist wrap on a couch in the reception hall of his religious boarding school, al-Mukhmin, a series of dingy concrete classrooms set on the grounds of a former commune in Central Java. “Bush doesn’t really know that he is losing this war and this is one of Allah’s ways of undermining his crusade to destroy Islam,” he adds.

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* Jihad Watch has the whole thing here with comments

* The Kos kidz are hearing the call and are getting ready to submit:

A simple way to end the war on terror

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Indonesia: Radical Muslim cleric cautions Bush against ‘crusade’

Jakarta, 25 Oct. (AKI) – The alleged spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiyah, Southeast Asia’s largest terrorist group, has revealed he wrote a letter to US President George W. Bush, asking him not to use God’s name to destroy Islam.

In an interview with the online site Asia Times, Muslim cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir, also called on Muslims to fight Washington with words and not with violence and bombs.

But he also declined to condemn the terrorists convicted of the 2002 Bali bombing which killed 202 people.

“The bombers are actually counter terrorists because they are opposing US terrorism,” he said. “They are mujahids.”

Bashir did not specify when he wrote to the US president. He did, however, say he had asked Bush to abandon his ‘War on Terror’ and convert to the Muslim faith.

“The only way Bush can survive is for him to do what is being ordered by God, which is to believe in Islam, to convert to Islam,” said Bashir.

The controversial religious leader claimed the US was spreading the message that all terrorists are Islamists, and that all Muslims who fight for sharia [Islamic law] are being stigmatised, arrested and imprisoned.

“America is instigating a war of ideas, therefore we should fight back with our own war of thoughts, issues, preaching,” the cleric said.

“What we try to do is counter the lies, break down the lies.This activity in and of itself is much more productive and efficient than bombing.”

Bashir said that although Indonesian bombers’ intentions were “right,” their methods were “wrong.” He then argued that bombing ‘safe’ places such as Bali and the Marriot hotel in Jakarta gave ammunition to the Americans.

“When events occur, they (are) taken as justification by the government and US,” he said. “It is easy for them (Islamists) to become prey to US efforts to stigmatise all Muslims.”

Bashir, aged 69, was released from prison in 2006 after serving two years in Jakarta’s Cipinang penitentiary for conspiracy in the 2002 Bali bombings.

His conviction was later overturned in appeal. He has consistently denied any connection to that or other attacks blamed on JI, whose objective is the creation of a caliphate in the region.

He has also often denied the mere existence of the terror group. The cleric is on a US list of terrorists.

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SIOE Denmark is only coming with a report now on the murder attempt and the demonstration in Copenhagen. There was a need for recover but also because the main stream medias have been either completely silent or have published lies about the incidents. We have waited to see if the msm would write about the incident. This is the first article about it, and one more will follow about the demonstration.

Murder attempts on SIOE/SIAD Denmark leader and members

One of the wounded SIAD members

Sunday the 21th October was not only a severe attack on freedom of speech but an attempt to close the mouth forever on an organisation who stands up for freedom, freedom of speech and for democracy. Small details were the reason why it didn’t ended up with murder like in Holland, on one of the brave advocate’s for freedom of expression who dare to stand in the frontline.

2-5 sek. after there was a loud bang and the frontwindow was damaged. About two autonomous looking types were in the front and two on ecah sites smashing the site windows shouting Get him out get him out! and started hitting Anders and the SIAD passenger in the other site with ironbars. The SIAD member in the middle (foto) was hit of a thrown filled soda bottle in her backhead.

Anders succeded after a while to kick one of the autonomous hard in the face as he leaned in to unlock the door. Anders mananged to get out with a fire extinguisher from the van and hit another one hard on the shoulder. It remained later that they attemted to stab him down when there was found cut holes in the shirt, jacket and vest. Anders was wearing his securityvest which saved his life.

* You can link here to the official SIOE website for updates

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Turkish Mosque’s Chief Threatens Violent Revolt in Amsterdam

THE HAGUE — If Amsterdam city council bars construction of the Westermoskee mosque, a great demonstration of Turks from throughout Europe will be held. The possibility of this degenerating into violence cannot be ruled out, the Turkish organisation Milli Gorus warns.

* ‘Can’t control the jihad apes’: Dagi Fag

The controversial Westermoskee in Amsterdam will be built come what may, said Fatih Dag of the Turkish mosque organisation in Trouw newspaper. If the government blocks its building, Milli Gorus will call on Turks throughout the whole of Europe to demonstrate. Dag hopes this would be a peaceful procession, but fears it could get out of hand. “Our people are emotional and someone crazy can just be walking among them,” he said in the newspaper.

* Dagi Fags planned (& threathened) Mosquestrosity

The building of the 42 metre tall, 18-million euros Neo-Ottoman Westermoskee was blocked months ago after Milli Gorus’ orthodox German head office replaced management in Amsterdam. After that, reports surfaced that Milli Gorus had wheedled billions of euros out of Turks since the 1990s by having them invest in Islamic investment funds.

* Looks like good Muslims cheat each other too…

Amsterdam politicians advised against the building of the new Westermoskee in the 1990s for fears of the orthodox course, but after much lobbying, the project was last year dubbed a symbol of integration by the then Justice Minster Donner, who laid the foundation-stone. Last week, it was made known that municipal authorities and Milli Gorus had suspended their cooperation on the building anyway.

If the licence for the mosque is definitively withdrawn, this would be “extremely foolish,” warns Dag. “I will then immediately call for a demonstration. If every Milli Gorus mosque in Europe sends a bus, it will certainly be busy. I have not tipped off Al Jazeera, but they will certainly get wind of it, and I will speak to them. That will go out to the entire Arabic world, cross my heart. All Muslims have a satellite dish, so they will see that a beautiful project for Muslims is being forbidden here.”

* 5 gazillion Muslims will call for violent jihad if the mosque doesn’t go ahead? Right.

“Do not forget”, added Dag in Trouw, “that we began the project with a number of Turks, but with all the hindrance, it has now become a matter for many Muslims throughout the Netherlands. I expect a revolt among them, naturally within the legal boundaries, but still: Our people are more emotional than you Europeans. And there can be a crazy person among them.”

* In true Arafart form, he incites and claims at the same time he cannot control the crazies among the Muhammad worshipers…
Amsterdam’s Mayor Cohen declined to comment on the apparent threats by Dag. According to his spokesman, the mayor does however want to hear “what is going on” personally from Dag.

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With thanks to Debbie Schlussel via LGF

“They do not expect nor encourage it,” of Western visitors at official meetings, said Bush’s spokeswoman, Sally McDonough. “As members of the official traveling party, we will not need to wear any head scarves or abayas at any point.”

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Is Hollywood Owned by the Arabs?

* Actually, that is just a rhetorical question.

When you know that CNN/Time-Warner is firmly in the hands of the oil-sheiks and FOX is 7 % owned by this fast talking Sowdi-jet-setting princeling Al Waleed, a front man for the Al Sowds, then you cannot help wondering just how much of Sowdi money goes to Hollywood to produce schlock to make America look bad. The coke-heads and the self-hating moguls don’t seem to mind:

Fumento: Hollywood’s War on Reality

Hollywood’s War on the War on Terror

By Michael Fumento

In 1942, Hollywood went to war. It began pumping out countless movies designed both to entertain the public and bolster its will to fight. A lot of them were cheap, hokey, or both. But even in a nation that seemingly needed little reminder of the dastardly attack on Pearl Harbor or the evils of the Nazis, they kept drilling home the message that we must persevere no matter the costs or the duration.

Critics have labeled the new movie “Rendition” a “political thriller.” Whether it thrills or not is subjective. But “political”? Absolutely. It’s merely the latest in an unbroken series of major films about the war on terror that range from those seeking to assure us that Islamist terrorism isn’t the threat we might think, to those depicting the terrorists as no worse than those who fight them — and by implication the American people as a whole.

More Crock & Schlock from Hollywood

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* Here is the new link to the video clip Youtube pulled the other day

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Watch out: here comes another stinker 

“24” Trailer 

* From the ‘anybody can be a terrorist’-department: this time the terrorists are Hispanics and scream ‘Porco Dio and  Caramba’ when they crash the jet. Just like Muhammad Atta and  Ziad Jarra:

A plane is heading toward the White House to attack it. And wouldn’t you know it?–the plane is not being led by four Muslim terrorists, the way it was on the actual plane that was headed that way, UNITED 93. Nope, it’s Hispanic former CTU agent Tony Almeida (the very hot Carlos Bernard) who’s misdirecting the plane. As on “24,” even when Muslims are the terrorists, it’s only because they’re working for “the man”–the (non-Muslim) White corporate man, the (non-Muslim) Russian man, or some other (non-Muslim) entity or party.

By Debby Schlussel 

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* The Grunard, once a respected newspaper in the UK, has become a megaphone for Muhammedan propaganda. Lately the shrill siren song of Muhammedanism has become more obnoxious than the incessant azzan, the war-cry ‘Allahu Akhbar’ that calls the believers to prayer 5 times a day. But all in all, the worshipers of Muhammad are rather skilled, like Ghada Karmi here, who invokes

‘Intellectual terrorism’

For the sake of free speech, British organisations should confront pro-Israel bullies, not appease them.

The newest and least attractive import from America, following on behind Coca-Cola, McDonald’s and Friends, is the pro-Israel lobby. The latest target of this US-style campaign is the august Oxford Union.

This week, two Israeli colleagues and I were due to appear at the union to participate in an important debate on the one-state solution in Israel-Palestine. Also invited was the American Jewish scholar and outspoken critic of Israel, Norman Finkelstein. At the last minute, however, the union withdrew its invitation to him, apparently intimidated by threats from various pro-Israel groups.

The Harvard Jewish lawyer and indefatigable defender of Israel, Alan Dershowitz, attacked the topic of the debate as well as the Oxford Union itself. In an article headlined “Oxford Union is dead”, he accused it of having become “a propaganda platform for extremist views”, and castigated its choice of what he termed anti-Israel and anti-semitic speakers.

Yet Dershowitz could have restored the balance as he saw it; he was the first person invited by the Oxford Union to oppose the motion but he declined due, as he put it, to “the terms of the debate and my proposed teammates”.

Read it if you can be bothered

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Our favourite: Soumaya Ghannoushi

This totally unhinged hijabbed Muslimah makes sure that each and every one of her articles is

“Shriller than a thriller:”

and full of

“Racist/ Far Right/Nazi/Islamophobia/Xenophobia”

Gannushi attributes these qualities only to the filthy kuffar, of course.

A properly indoctrinated Muslimah would not harbor such sentiments.

Return of the Muslim other

The far right is reviving the prejudices that used to dominate mainstream European politics

In a few days time a cluster of far-right groups under the name the Stop the Islamisation of Europe alliance will hold rallies in London, Copenhagen and Marseilles to demand an end to what they call “the overt and covert expansion of Islam in Europe”. Although the events are likely to attract no more than a handful of protesters, their message resonates widely. On Saturday the rightwing People’s party, notorious for its virulent hostility to ethnic minorities and Muslims, emerged as the victor in the Swiss elections, taking 29% of the vote, the best electoral performance by a party in the country’s elections since 1919.

More howling and wingeing?

Sumaya got plenty more

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But best of all is the ‘Islamophobia Watch’ website of the ever vigilant Inayat Bunglawalla, a Mr. Bean lookalike and media secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, who got himself stuck in a steaming pile of taqiyya after he was caught sending death threats to Charles Johnson’s ‘Little Green Footballs’ here

The Bunglawalla ding dong: 

“I look forward to the day when you pigs get your throats cut….”

Inayats tolerance for multiculti-diversity shows on his blog:

“Comments Off”

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The Awful Guardian:

The Media Are the Enemy

Guardian “reporter” Clancy Chassay (for whom the term “weenie” was invented) goes along on a field trip with the Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades as they fire rockets into Israel, attempting to commit mass murder. Disgusting beyond belief: Video: Inside Gaza – ‘Resistance is our strategy’.

Also note that the degenerate murderers are now using Google Earth to aid in their targeting.

Thanks to LGF

* Muhammedanism is build on lies and deception. But because Muhammad was ‘the last prophet’ and Islam makes all other religions obsolete, what for do you need temples, churches or synagogues? What for do you need books if you have the Koran? All there really ever was is mosques, and if you keep repeating it long enough you might even get yourself to believe it…

* This is part of the ongoing effort to rewrite history and appropriate the holy sites of Jews and Christians. It gains a principal impetus from the Qur’anic delegitimization of Judaism and Christianity, and presentation of Islam as the true message of the founders of those religions.

By Mike Said JP

The former mufti of Jerusalem, Ikrema Sabri, has made the claim that there never was a Jewish temple on the Temple Mount, and the Western Wall was really part of a mosque.

An aerial view of the Temple Mount and Western Wall.

“There was never a Jewish temple on Al-Aksa [the mosque compound] and there is no proof that there was ever a temple,” he told The Jerusalem Post via a translator. “Because Allah is fair, he would not agree to make Al-Aksa if there were a temple there for others beforehand.”

Sabri rejected Judaism’s claim to the Western Wall as part of the outer wall of the Second Temple.

“The wall is not part of the Jewish temple. It is just the western wall of the mosque,” he said. “There is not a single stone with any relation at all to the history of the Hebrews.”

* If Sabri could read perhaps he would know that every stone in Jerusalem has ‘Israel’ written all over it.

Asked if Jews would ever be allowed to pray on the Temple Mount under Muslim control, he replied: “It is not the Temple Mount, you must say Al-Aksa. And no Jews have the right to pray at the mosque. It was always only a mosque – all 144 dunams, the entire area. No Jewish prayer. If the Jews want real peace, they must not do anything to try to pray on Al-Aksa. Everyone knows that.”

“Zionism tries to trick the Jews claiming that this was part of a Jewish temple, but they dug there and they found nothing,” Sabri added.

Archeologists overseeing Islamic infrastructure work on the Mount announced this week that they had unveiled a sealed archeological level dating back to the First Temple period.

The First Temple was built by King Solomon in the 10th century BCE, and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The Second Temple was built 70 years later, enlarged during the first century BCE by Herod, and destroyed by the Romans in the year 70.

The Dome of the Rock and Al-Aksa Mosque were constructed on the Temple Mount site in the late seventh century. (?)

The controversial issue of the holy sites is expected to come up during negotiations ahead of a US-sponsored summit on the Middle East in Annapolis later this year.

Palestinian leaders, most notably the late Yasser Arafat, have consistently denied Jewish claims to the Mount.

*Arafart quote: “We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. . . . We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem.”

* “Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations.”

* “I kill for the sake of my cause; wouldn’t I lie for it?”
– Yasser Arafat

Sabri made the comments in an interview with the Post’s Friday supplement, In Jerusalem, for a cover story on how religious leaders view the capital.

Fitzgerald: Temple? What Temple?

This is perfectly consonant with the Islamic worldview. The earth belongs to Allah and His Messenger Muhammad — which means, in human terms, those who are the Believers in Allah and that Messenger. Everyone else must either convert, be killed, or in some cases be permitted to live, but only in a condition of permanent humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, as “dhimmis.”

Nothing else has value. Nothing else is of interest. And since everyone since time began — a nice bit of backdating — is in the Muslim view born a Muslim, but for one reason or another falls away (talk about a bad environment!) — every claim by those of other faiths are meaningless.

Sometimes you smash the Bamiyan Buddhas, when you can finally get the right dynamite, after a thousand years of smashing Buddhist stupas, and Hindu temples, all over Asia. Sometimes you turn a church, or many churches, into foundations for mosques (see the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus), or turn the whole thing, merely by adding minarets, into a mosque (see the Hagia Sophia), taking care to break off all the crosses and vandalizing any pictures that depict persons. Sometimes you simply deny the claim altogether, as in the case of the Temple Mount.

This statement is not a strange one. It is one that almost every single “Palestinian” and for that matter, if asked, hundreds of millions of Muslims, would agree with. It is the “Palestinians” who own the Land of Israel. It is they who were always there, since time immemorial, tilling the soil. Nothing about Israel has anything to do with Jews or with Christians. It is a Muslim land. It became, of course, a Muslim “land” when Muslims conquered it, and let it fall into ruin and desolation — but it was still a Muslim “land” no matter how indifferent Muslims were to it, except as a place important, as a holy land, to Jews and to Christians, who therefore must be denied any claim to it, or any right to live in it, or even to visit it without strict permission of their Muslim masters.

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Oklahoma lawmakers object to gift of Qurans, return their copies to advisory panel

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) – A gift intended to promote diversity in Oklahoma is generating controversy instead.

Oklahoma State Rep. Rex Duncan: Saying No to Islamists–That’s Hot
Several state lawmakers are returning copies of the Quran to a state panel on diversity after one lawmaker claimed the Muslim holy book condones the killing of innocent people.

In a letter to colleagues, state Representative Rex Duncan says “most Oklahomans do not endorse the idea of killing innocent women and children in the name of ideology.” At least 17 other legislators have notified the Governor’s Ethnic American Advisory Council that they too will return the gift.

BINGO! They Get It.

Link to Debbie Schlussel

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Italy: Eighth mosque attacked in northern region of Lombardy

Rome, 25 Oct. (AKI) – A mosque in a small town outside Milan has been the target of a violent attack – the eighth on mosques in the region of Lombardy surrounding the city.

Italian media reports said the Alif Baa Islamic Centre, in the northern Italian city of Abbiategrasso, 20 kilometres west of Milan, was subjected to fresh violence on Wednesday.

Another mosque in the nearby city of Segrate was attacked on 5 August and the car of the Imam, Hamid Zariate, was destroyed.

The Islamic community of Abbiategrasso is considered to be one of the most integrated in northern Italy. It is also the hometown of the Italian missionary, Giancarlo Bossi, kidnapped by Philippino rebels in the south of the country in June and released after a month of captivity.

“There is a need for dialogue among religions,” said Bossi.

“Whoever committed this act is a fanatic who does not respect a sacred place.”

* Bossi didn’t mention anything about the sacred places in Kosovo or in Egypt or Indonesia that have been burned to the ground by the RoP.
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Italy: Minister to present ‘charter of values’ to Muslims

* Good Luck with that, Minister! Why don’t you check up on what Muhammedans believe? Something like this: “War is deceit.” “Allah has sanctioned the dissolution of your vows.” And: “If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'”

* People who believe that will gladly sign any piece of paper, as long as they can carry on with their evil ways and spread Islam.

Rome, 24 Oct. (AKI) – Italy’s interior minister Giuliano Amato will visit Rome’s mosque on Friday to present to Muslims a ‘Charter of Values for Citizenship and Integration’.

“It is the first public presentation of this important document,” the director of Italy’s Islamic Cultural Centre, Abdullah Redouane, said in a statement.

“Developed in consultation with various religious and civil society representatives, it establishes the principles for the harmonious integration in Italian society of non-Catholic communities.”

Amato, Redouane, and the Rome mosque’s imam Alaa Din al-Goobashi will be among those attending Friday’s presentation of the charter.

The document, which has symbolic rather than legal value, is aimed at immigrants belonging to Muslim and other faiths. The government plans to distribute it in immigrants’ centres, schools, and places of worship in Italy.

Italian authorities are also considering making the charter available in Italian embassies and consulates abroad, as well as in Italian offices that issue immigrants with permits of stay, residency and visas.

The charter was prepared by an interior ministry committee of experts following consultations with members of the Muslim, Protestant, Romanian and Russian Orthodox communities in Italy, the ItalianBishops Conference (CEI), immigrant groups and charities that assist immigrants.

The idea of a charter outlining common values to be subscribed by Muslims was first launched by Amato in August 2006.

It came after Italy’s largest Muslim group, the Union of Islamic Communities in Italy (UCOII) published an advertisement in several newspapers likening Israel’s actions in the July War against Lebanon and in the Palestinian territories to Nazi atrocities during World War II.

At the suggestion of Muslim groups, the charter’s scope was subsequently broadened to include other immigrant communities in Italy.