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This is Peter Hitchens’ Mail on Sunday column
* Â Looks like Peter Hitchens has his heart in the right place, but when it comes to Islam he is quite ignorant…
Dhimmi, Lunatic or both?
When did we go soft? When did we develop our national tendency to cringe before we are even hit, to apologise for existing?
What’s most striking about the past 50 years of our history is how we have given in without a fight to those who want to revolutionise our society.
It is all very well going on about Winston Churchill, but Archbishop Rowan Williams is a figure much more representative of modern Britain.
This prelate whimpered last week that Christianity was ‘offensive’ to Muslims.
Offensive? I know we have been urged to stop being horrid to this inept, terrifyingly well meaning man – and it really is nothing personal – but he does rather ask for it.
* A very good description for this disgraceful clown in robes…
A few months ago he mused on the possibilities of allowing a little light Sharia Law in this country.This is, I suppose, a point of view. I just can’t work out why the leader of a Christian church should hold it.
The same goes for the Lord Chief Injustice, Lord Phillips, whose entire career and substantial salary are based on centuries of Christian-based law.
If it is anyone’s job to suggest Muslim law should get a toehold in Britain, it isn’t his.
In my experience, Muslims aren’t in the least bit ‘offended’ by Christianity.
I’ve argued with them about it, in places as different as Peshawar, on the North-West Frontier, and Whitechapel, in the East End of London. And I had the impression they were relieved to find someone from the West who didn’t fawn all over them.
What really offends them is what also offends many of us – crudity, drunkenness, pornography and licence. (Goodness, are you doing a Dinesh d’Souza here, Peter?)
In any case, given that Christianity was founded centuries before Islam, Muslims can’t really claim to be upset by it, any more than I can be ‘offended’ by the existence of Stonehenge or a Hindu temple.
What should worry Dr Williams much more is the printing of millions of doctored versions of the Koran in Saudi Arabia, deliberately edited to encourage angry militancy. (Hitchens is definitely wrong on this one, the Wahabis are merely printing the real thing as it always was…)
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I am grateful to Channel 4 and Antony Thomas for revealing this astonishing fact in their programme on the Koran last week.
“All steeds of war…”
What, you might ask, are tanks and missiles doing in a book 13 centuries old?
Well, in the Saudi edition, English translation, Surah 8, verse 60, a passage on unbelievers reads: ‘Make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery) to threaten the enemy of Allah.’ (“steeds of war” is the correct translation in every Koran I have seen. It means ‘every kind of weaponry you can muster’-Peter, what makes you think  it doesn’t mean tanks, planes, missiles artillery? But of curse it does, because Muslims adopt to modern technology, did you think they are obliged to fight us with bow and arrow and scimitars?)
* Update:  is is indeed correct that the Wahabite Koran issued by the King Fahd Academy uses the above wording “tanks, planes, missiles artillery?” But why should that be incorrect?
And in a verse that speaks of those who have earned God’s anger and gone astray, someone has inserted – in brackets – ‘such as the Jews’ and ‘such as the Christians’. (That’s correct: Muhammad fought Jews and Christians and drove them out of Arabia. Nothing wrong here, the Zoroastrians, the Hindus, that came much later)
The programme also pointed out that in Surah 5, verse 69, the Koran assures righteous Jews and Christians that ‘no fear should come upon them’.Â
A footnote in the Saudi version insists that this was cancelled by a later verse which claims that those of any religion other than Islam will never be accepted. (Better believe it, Peter: that’s what’s called the concept of abrogation, but absolutely correct when it comes to Islamic Dualism)
This might be something to get offended about, if you wanted to, Dr Williams.
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Islam is offensive to all Kufar.
Salaam
It is not Islam and Muslims who are creating problems, actually it is
British society creating problems for the Muslim community.
The Muslim community has been vicitm of Paki-bashing in all walks of life by
the British society and Establishment for the last 60 years. Now it is
vicitm of terrorism by the British Establishment. Thousands of Muslim youth
are being serched in the streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar
without any trial.
State schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers are not suitable for
Muslim children. This is the reason why majority of them leave schools with
low grades.
God has created diverse human beings to live in this tiny global villageas
of one family. Creation by its very nature is deverse with different
species, different communities, different cultures and languages. These
differences represent the beauty and wonder but diversity is sometimes not
fully appreciated, resulting in all sorts of clashes. The British society
and Establishment must learn to respect and accommodate others, as if in a
family.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to
become notoriously monolingual Brit. He/she is supposed to be well versed in
standard English, Arabic, Urdu and other community languages, to be part of
the Britisah society, as well as proud of his.her cultural roots and enjoy
the beauty of his/her literature and poetry.
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
iftikhar, no mate muslim children aren’t suitable for ENGLISH society when they’re brainwashed by your ridiculous cult. There’s plenty of muslims behind bars for terrorism, assault and rape so don’t come the innocent!
Hey Itchy – back again – but your mail is just another cut and paste from the scrap book for the eternally useless. You are the problem and we are not going to change our culture for idiots like you. BTW hows Mrs P. Evidence is pretty clear that Itchy is an automated server which checks out keywords and then responds – an automated muslim spammer if you like. Not terribly bright – and to think that the moron that wrote the code took the place of an intelligent person in whatever high-school/tech college it went to.
Ahmad
You are not only contradicting yourself but you are wrong. If it’s true that you are an automatic spammer then a reply would be pointless and a waste of my time.
However:
This is Britain, inhabited by us for the last 8-10,000 years. We have gradually come to the people and culture that we are today (ignoring the last 11 years!) over that time.
We have many good qualities including a measured approach to things (rather than a violent and hysterical knee-jerk reaction to anything and everything), the ability to apply logic, reason, curiosity, humour, ingenuity and inventive vision. We are also generally very tolerant and interested in other people.
The reason muslim boys are being profiled (along with others) is because it is they who present the biggest security threat to the innocent people of this country. When the IRA were bombing us the Irish were targeted. That is logical and sensible.
7/7 changed everything. I don’t think any Brit will forget the obscene picture of the bus that was bombed. It is not forgotten. It is not forgiven. It brought home to us just how incompatible muslim extremists are to any western society.
As for schooling – our state schools lessons are in English and the national curriculum is followed. If you lived in Spain, for instance, lessons would be in Spanish and the Spanish curriculum would be followed.
Your argument that teachers should inflict foreign languages and customs on 98% of the population is laughable. We have already seen the uproar when a class of children was force to enact islam.
If you want to teach Arabic and Urdo and foreign customs then this can be done in the home by the childrens’ parents. It is not up to us. Your argument is spurious, unfounded and silly.
The disingenuous argument that we are all a little global village is nonsense. Try telling that to the Saudis, the most religioiusly intolerant country in the world, and certainly one of the most intolerant of *others* you could find. Perhaps you would like to take a look at what they teach about christians and jews in their school textbooks. Why should we allow you to build monumental mosques across our country (architectural jihad) when in islamic countries you are destroying churches and persecuting and killing people of other faiths and those that chose to leave islam. Before you try to lecture ME on tolerance I suggest that you put your own house in order first!
If you want to be treated with any respect at all then stop trying to destroy my country, historty and culture. You can stop whining and demanding as well – it has become distasteful and tedious.
Our patience and tolerance is almost gone.