* So much for the ‘interfaith’ fraud in Spain (Al Andaluz) just 3 weeks ago…
Sowdis to Christians: Get Out!
FAITH UNDER FIRE
Saudis to Christians: Get out!
Those accused of worshipping in homes ordered deported
* Are you wondering how many people this hypocrite has sentenced to public flogging and beheading over the same thing?
Posted: August 04, 2008
10:13 pm EasternÂ Â Â Â
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More than a dozen Christians in Saudi Arabia who were accused by government officials of worshipping in their homes have been ordered deported.
According to a report fromÂ International Christian Concern,Â the Christians will be expelled tomorrow for their part in a home worship service in Taif in April.
The deportation conflicts with the message stated just weeks earlier by Saudi King Abdullah, who called for interfaith dialogue and held a summit in Spain with a representatives from several major religions.
“Deporting Christians for worshipping in their private homes shows that King Abdullah’s speech is mere rhetoric and his country is deceiving the international community about their desire for change and reconciliation,” said Jeff King, the president of ICC.
The report from the Washington-based human rights group said 15 Christians will be deported. Sixteen had been arrested April 25 when a dozen Saudi Arabian police officers raided a home during a prayerÂ meeting.
“The first officer to enter the house after breaking down the main gate pointed a pistol at the Christians and ordered them to hand over their resident permits and mobile phones,” the report said. “The other 11 police followed quickly and started searching the entire house. The confiscated an electronic drum set, an offering box with 500 Saudi Riyal in it ($130), 20 Bibles, and a few Christian books.”
The worshippers initially faced accusations of preaching and singing. “They later changed the charge to holding a ‘dance party’ and collecting money to support terrorism,” the ICC said.
“During the raid, the police mocked, questioned and harassed the Christians for four hours,” ICC said.. “Then they took them to a police station where the head of the station interrogated them. The head of the police then wrote down their ‘statements’ in Arabic and forced the Christians, who are immigrants and not able to read or write Arabic, to sign the statements.”
They were released three days later, and one Christian immediately left the country. The others returned to their work but soon got letters ordered their departures tomorrow, ICC said.
“Three weeks ago, Saudi Arabia hosted an interfaith conference in Madrid, Spain. During the conference that took place from July 16-19, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia called for reconciliation among various religions,” ICC said.
According to an International Herald Tribune report, King Abdullah’s meeting drew about 200 representatives of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism and other religions.
The reporter noted that the meetings had to be held outside of Saudi Arabia, because “the mere fact that rabbis would be openly invited to the kingdom, a country where in principle Jews are not permitted to visit, would have constituted a turning point.”
Esposito spearheading interfaith dialogues
RenownedÂ apologistÂ for Islamania, soft-spoken “Catholic” dhimmi, and, most recently,misrepresenter of data, John Esposito declares that Catholics and Muslims should — drum roll please –Â dialogue: “Georgetown scholar: Muslims comfortable in dialogue with Catholics,” by Chris Herlinger for theÂ Catholic Explorer, August 4:
A previous article on lean, mean, jogging John Esposito, who despite teaching at two Jesuit institutions, is jesuitical only in the colloquial (and pejorative) sense, but is very far from, has been careful to distance himself from, any vows of poverty. He’s the worldliest, most grasping teacher that any Jesuit Institution has ever, quite embarrassingly and disastrously, employed. He’s a Defender of the Faith alright, but the faith is Islam.
Here’s that article:
Fitzgerald: Esposito, Georgetown, and the DHS
Possibly the scandal of Esposito can be brought to the attention of the Vatican. Possibly the Vatican can persuade the administration at Georgetown to sever all ties with the “Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.” Esposito would still have his Saudi money and his lecture fees. He would still be lean, mean, jogging about, the man who seldom even puts in an appearance any more at the office. But at least the Georgetown prestige would no longer rub, wrongly, off onto him. He would simply be alone, with his “Center.”
Surely someone on the Georgetown faculty, or in the Catholic hierarchy, or among powerful lay Catholics, can get the ball rolling on this.
As to the shoddiness of his scholarship — well, forget about it. Margoliouth and Schacht have recently been reprinted. Antoine Fattal’s book on the legal status of non-Muslims under Islam never went out of print. K. S. Lal is easily obtained. Tritton, Arthur Jeffery, Armand Abel, Charles-Emmanuel Bousquet, Snouck Hurgronje — they are all about to be reprinted, at least in relevant part. Of course, don’t think for a minute that Esposito, or any of his crew, are familiar with any of these great scholars, and dozens more. They’ve probably never read them. They seem actually to believe that the only person to have written about dhimmitude (though her work is profound, she recognizes that it also makes use of the previous work of dozens of other scholars) is Bat Ye’or, whom they like to airily dismiss as “polemical” so that they will not have to confront her meticulous, scrupulous, and irrefutable scholarship.
If ever that silly bumpersticker “Question Authority” was appropriate, it is in relation to the likes of Esposito, and Michael Sells, and tutti quanti. Whether on the take, or simply ill-informed, or lazy, or stupid, or some combination, they are guides to nothing and to nowhere. But their books could be given as incentives to those who sign up for Al-Jazeera on cable — the perfect coffee-table accompaniment to so many of its programs.
Here is what I put up January 10, 2005:
That the Administration at Georgetown, that the Georgetown alumni, have not yet realized what damage an institutional connection between Esposito’s “Center” and Georgetown is doing to the image, and name, of the latter, is a pity. When the Administration, and other faculty, perhaps prompted by expressions of alumni displeasure, do come to their senses, one hopes that all institutional ties between Georgetown and Esposito’s Center, which benefits so much from the legitimacy conferred by the name “Georgetown,” will be severed.Â
Perhaps a good place to begin is for the President and Trustees and alumni of Georgetown to educate themselves by reading, and assimilating, the articles on Islam by a real scholar at Georgetown — Professor James V. Schall, S. J.
Professor Schall is neither an Arab hireling, nor an apologist for Islam, nor a sycophantic supporter of Muslim causes, nor a recipient of Arab Muslim support, and lionizing. For James V. Schall, S. J. answers to a Higher Authority, and has no truck with an Arab tycoon in Beirut, a Hamas-supporter in London, or a gaggle of Saudi princelings, all daggers-and-dishdashas, with their sneers of cold command, performing some celebratory dance in Riyadh and Jeddah.
I hope that James V. Schall, S.J. is thinking about this, and that John Allen is thinking about this, and Sandro Magister, and others who can get, somehow, to the upper regions of the Vatican, to call attention to this agent of Islam — for what else should we call him? — who is battening on the Georgetown name.
In World War II, anyone who had the kind of connections and “friends” among Nazis or Nazi sympathizers that Esposito does among the supporters of terrorist groups would have lost his job.
John Esposito, however, has not been stripped of his Saudi-supplied wealth; nor has he lost his job. No, instead he has been invited by the Department of Homeland Security to address one of the meetings it has organized in New Jersey. One’s worst suspicions about the DHS, and about who is doing what in our government, appear to be justified. Those suspicions not allayed by reports from within the Pentagon about Muslim officers and aides swaggering about, or Pentagon officials who continue to be taken for “briefings” on Islam with John Esposito. We will have to find those who are just as alarmed, but are capable — in Congress or the Executive branch — of doing something about it. The Saudi lobby is very powerful; there is nothing else like it.
[Posted by Hugh at September 30, 2007]Â
Posted by: HughÂ Â atÂ August 5, 2008 12:54 PM