* Because a 14 year old boy didn’t dismount from his donkey when a Muslim funeral procession came towards him. Pious Muslims go apeshit when Dimmies don’t know their place:

Dhimmi laws:

The kuffar has to dismount when Muslims pass by

(Compass Direct News) – Authorities in an Egyptian village arrested 50 Coptic Christians, whose shops were then looted, to pacify Muslims following violence that erupted on Nov. 4 over a Christian boy’s unwitting break with local custom. Muslim villagers attacked the homes and shops of Coptic Christians in violence-prone Tayyiba after 14-year-old Copt Mina William failed to dismount his donkey as a funeral procession passed.

Egypt: Christian boy fails to dismount from donkey in custom for passing funeral procession; Muslims riot, loot Christian shops


Members of the procession reportedly beat William before completing the procession. The processional members later attacked homes and shops of local Copts before police broke up the crowd with tear gas. A source told Compass that police arrested a disproportionate amount of Christians to create a false sense of equanimity and to pressure Christians into “reconciliation” with the attackers so the Copts would not prosecute them. Police in the village have since harassed Copts through intimidation, “fines” and racketeering, taking an estimated $50,000 from village Christians, sources said. Once police lifted the curfew, Coptic shopkeepers returned to their stores to discover that they had been looted. “It is unreasonable that a mistake by some 14-year-old should lead to all that rampage,” a village Coptic priest known as Father Augustinus told weekly newspaper Watani. “Something ought to be done to halt all this.”

*  Can’t be done. The Dhimmies have to be put in their place…

Dhimmi Laws on Riding

Dhimmis were forbidden to ride horses or camels; they were only allowed to ride donkeys and only on packsaddles, a prohibition that has its roots in the Pact of Umar.[39] In the 18th century, Damanhuri, rector of Al-Azhar University, summed up the consensus of Islamic jurists: “Neither Jew nor Christian should ride a horse, with or without saddle. They may ride asses with a packsaddle.”[130] An additional requirement for dhimmis was not ride astride, but only sidesaddle, like a woman.[131] In the Mamluk Egypt, where non-Mamluk Muslims were not allowed to ride horses and camels, dhimmis were prohibited even from riding donkeys inside cities.[132] The same prohibition imposed on dhimmis was recorded in the 19th century in Damascus,[133] as well as in Tunisia.[134]

European travelers passing through the Middle East in the 18th and 19th centuries left ample evidence of the careful enforcement of prohibitions on horseback riding. Danish traveler Carsten Niebuhr wrote in 1761 that in Egypt, Jews and Christians were forced to alight while passing the houses of notable Muslims and when meeting such notables in the street.[135] A Frenchman visiting Cairo in 1697 recorded the same situation. In Yemen and in the rural areas of Morocco, Libya, Iraq, and Persia, dhimmis had to dismount from a mule when passing a Muslim.[133]

[edit]Dwelling places

The dhimmis’ obligation not to build houses higher than those of Muslims is one of the clauses of the Pact of Umar,[39] supported as a desirable condition of “dhimma” by the consensus opinion of Islamic scholars.[136] According to Bat Ye’or, the rule was not always enforced; for example, no such laws were recorded in Muslim Spain, and in Tunisia Jews owned fine houses.[137] Sometimes, Muslim rulers issued regulations requiring dhimmis to attach distinctive signs to their houses. In the 9th century, Abbasid caliph al-Mutawakkil ordered dhimmis to nail wooden images of devils to the doors of their homes.[138] At about the same time in Tunisia, a qadi of the Aghlabid dynasty compelled dhimmis to nail onto their doors a board bearing the sign of a monkey.[139] In Bukhara, Jews had to hang a piece of cloth out of their houses so that they could be distinguished from those of Muslims.[140]

Dhimmis were seldom prohibited from living in certain places, but there were some exceptions. In Morocco, where beginning from the 15th century and especially since the early 19th century, Jews were confined to mellahs — walled quarters, similar to European ghettos. Jews were also forced to live in separate quarters in Persia. Neither Jews nor Christians were allowed to live in Hejaz after Umar I had expelled them.[141]

Dumbledores comments:

If you are new to this site: note well that the horrible behaviour recorded of the Muslims in this story, toward the Christians – the hairtrigger rioting on the most trivial excuse, perhaps even on an entirely trumped-up excuse, the lynching, the looting spree and vandalism, and the connivance of the authorities in a Kristallnacht-style assault on a defenceless community –

is *absolutely typical* of the way in which Muslims treat dhimmi or de facto dhimmi communities *all over* the Muslim world; it is the way that communities like the Copts, non-Muslim people living within Muslim-dominated societies, were forced to live, and still are forced to live, in every part of the Muslim world.

Even if, due to sheer hard work and guts, or due to this or that local Muslim community or ruler slacking off on the persecution for a while (humans can grow weary in ill-doing, as in well-doing) the non-Muslims attained a degree of prosperity, they were always – always, always, always – liable to be, at any moment, out of the blue, slandered, lynched (as the boy was, in this report), raped, robbed and – in the worst cases – forcibly ‘converted’ to Islam, or still worse, mass murdered, in pogroms ranging in scale from the local to the genocidal.

They lived, as Mr Fitzgerald here at this site has often observed, in “a condition of degradation, humiliation, and extreme physical insecurity”. They lived, from day to day, under a Scimitar of Damocles.

As for the claim that the Christian boy had dissed the Muslims by not getting off his donkey…this is straight out of the cruel and draconian ‘rules for dhimmis’, all of them designed to expose dhimmis to perpetual humiliation.

If you read Bat Yeor’s The Dhimmi, you will find that in many Muslim lands it was the rule that a non-Muslim had to dismount from his donkey (non-Muslims weren’t permitted to ride horses) if he met a Muslim; this appears to be an elaboration of the general principle involved in this clause of the legendary Pact of Omar, which prescribes “We [i.e. dhimmis] will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them.”

Here, from Ibn Kathir’s interpretation of Quran Surah 9: 29, the line about how the dhimmis must ‘ feel themselves HUMILIATED’, is what Muslims are taught to do, the attitude they are supposed to display, toward people like the Copts:

҉۬(until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam,

﴿عَن يَدٍ﴾
҉۬(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience,

﴿وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ﴾

(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled.

“Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims,

“for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.

Muslim {one of the authoritative Hadith – dda} recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,

«لَا تَبْدَءُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى بِالسَّلَامِ، وَإِذَا لَقِيتُمْ أَحَدَهُمْ فِي طَرِيقٍ فَاضْطَرُّوهُ إِلَى أَضْيَقِه»

(Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.)”

Got that, O new reader? This respected Muslim theologian/ jurist/ Qur’an commentator is *telling. Muslims. to. behave. like. thugs. and. bullies.* toward non-Muslims.

Sacralised gangster behaviour. Thuggery – commanded and justified. *spit *spit* spit*.

Here is Bat Yeor, in her essay ‘A Christian Minority: The Copts in Egypt’, in Spencer’s ‘The Myth of Islamic Tolerance’, summing up the system of dhimmitude: “a codified system of legal tyranny that…in practice often led to genocide”.

A poster on this site, who had spoken with Jews from Yemen who escaped dhimmitude in the 1950s, related what they had said, of what it was like to live – or, to survive – under that system. They told him it was “hell on earth”.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 22, 2008 3:09 PM



  1. The poor kid would be more off his donkey than on it. Especially the way Islamists value human life, not.

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