Koran burning may be on again

ABC News

The pastor of a tiny Florida church has threatened to rethink his decision to abandon plans for a weekend Koran-burning event.

Update: Florida pastor says imam lied to him about Ground Zero mosque deal

It’s just difficult to imagine a “misunderstanding” arising over such a major point. Jones called off the Qur’an burning for the moment; now the onus ought to be on Imam Muhammad Musri to come clean about what he told Jones. Hopefully, there were witnesses. For something this important, there should have been, and must be in the future to avoid precisely this sort of thing.

More on this story. “Pastor cancels Quran-burning, then reconsiders,” by Antonio Gonzales for the Associated Press, September 9 (thanks to JW)

‘If this is true, he lied to us”: Pastor Terry Jones with Imam Mohammed Musri (right) speaking to the press this morning ….

And why would he not lie?  In Islam, lying to infidels is perfectly legitimate:  Qur’an 66:2, “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows. …

Hours after calling off the much-criticised ceremony to mark the anniversary of the September 11 attacks, Pastor Terry Jones backtracked and said it had merely been suspended.

“Right now we are just putting a temporary hold upon our planned event,” he said.

The Dove World Outreach Centre pastor had earlier said his change of heart over the event was in exchange for a deal to relocate a controversial mosque project near Ground Zero in New York.

But the alleged deal was thrown into confusion when the imam leading the project for the Islamic cultural centre in New York, Feisal Abdul Rauf, quickly denied any such agreement.

Pastor Jones claimed to have won assurances from an Orlando imam acting as a go-between, Mohammed Musri, that Iman Rauf was willing to do a deal and would meet him in New York on Saturday to discuss it.

“We put a suspension on it because right now we are actually really disappointed and very shocked because if this turns out to be true, he [Imam Musri] very clearly lied to us,” Pastor Jones said later after Imam Rauf’s denial.

“We would be forced to rethink our decision, because we cancelled it based upon his word.

“I understand he [Imam Musri] is now going around saying that he did not say that.”

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Dealing With Muslims

“If politeness and ceremony be observed toward Mohammedans, they imagine they are feared and become arrogant; but in showing severity and rudeness, they are impressed with fear and respect, and they are supple and manageable.”

–North China Herald,1867

Here’s part 2 of the slimy imam Rauf interview on Caliphate News:

Ayatollah Khomeini's Coreligionist Spills the Beans on Islamic Pedophilia

I guess we have to look at this from the liberal progressive point of view. Its  their culture and who are we to judge this kind of behavior, we might upset the islamists and offend them. Never mind if their behavior offends us…

Khomeini Sexually Assaulting Crying and screaming 4 year old Girl – with parental consent


Get over it, folks! Don’t be so narrow minded. We need more tolerance. Don’t be a racist bigot Islamophobe! Remember; its only a tiny minority of extremists, not all muslims are pedophiles, not all muslims are terrorists…….. (fill in the rest, I wanna barf….)

Khomeini’s Teachings on sex with infants and animals

Islamic Teachings on sex with infants:

“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.”

The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in “Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom”

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Hussein Obama's War on Free Speech

Back in May of 2009, the US military burned stacks of bibles in Afghanistan, why weren’t we having this conversation then? No one threatened violence against them. Obama did not stand against the bible burning.

In another striking blow to American non-Muslims and freedom of speech, President Obama came out against the qu’ran burning in Florida. A stupid idea, of course but protected under the laws of free speech. The burning of books is wrong in principle: the antidote to bad speech is not censorship or book-burning, but more speech. Open discussion. Give-and-take. And the truth will out. There is no justification for burning books. If Americans are free and not under Sharia, then the church can do this if it wants, and their freedom and rights should be protected. Islamic supremacists should not be allowed a victory for their violent intimidation — if these people want to burn a book, they’re free to do so.  (War on Free Speech/Atlas Shrugs)

Dumbest Comment Ever:

From a guy who calls himself Max:

Q: My only question on the matter is, is the act of burning the Koran going to be constructive or destructive?

A: The choice is always freedom or death.
The moment you surrender your freedom you must pay the piper.

Gutless ones line up to the left – the showers are waiting for you!

The new mohammedan mission statement:

“Do what I tell you and no one gets hurt.”

But as you can see here, the soldiers of Allah don’t even have to threaten  violence  any more. Americans are already dhimmified enough to submit, all in the guise of ‘tolerance, compassion, love and kumbaya…’

War is Deceit, said Muhammad, Profit of Islam….

Florida pastor says imam lied to him about Ground Zero mosque deal

It’s just difficult to imagine a “misunderstanding” arising over such a major point. Jones called off the Qur’an burning for the moment; now the onus ought to be on Imam Muhammad Musri to come clean about what he told Jones. Hopefully, there were witnesses. For something this important, there should have been, and must be in the future to avoid precisely this sort of thing.

More on this story. “Pastor cancels Quran-burning, then reconsiders,” by Antonio Gonzales for the Associated Press, September 9 (thanks to JW)

Earlier today we had this:

Florida pastor calls off Qur’an-burning….

…but only if the mega-mosque is moved away from Ground Zero

I ain’t buying any. “Fla. Minister Cancels Burning of Qurans on 9/11,” from AP, September 9:

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (Sept. 9) — The leader of a small Florida church that espouses anti-Islam philosophy says he is canceling plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11.

The soldiers of Allah are a bit more determined in the pursuit of their goals:

Muslim group to distribute replacement Qurans in response to planned burning

(CNN) — CAIR, the long arm of the Muslim Brotherhood and a front for Hamas, will announce an initiative Thursday to distribute 200,000 Qurans to replace what it says are 200 copies that a Florida church plans to burn in a gesture that has sparked controversy worldwide.

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Koran-burning isn’t the real “provocation.” Or Mohammed cartoons…

Michelle Malkin

Koran-burning isn’t the real “provocation.” Or Mohammed cartoons. As I’ve said many times over the years, the mere existence of infidels is what provokes and inflames the Religion of Perpetual Outrage. Retaliating against Koran-burners or targeting cartoonists is a lingering pretext to demonstrate that centuries-old, Koran-inspired hatred. If it isn’t cartoons, it’s always something else. From fresco rage to book rage to film rage to beauty pageant rage toKoran-dropping rage to cartoon rage to Pope rage, to ceramic Mohammed bobblehead rage to teddy bear rage to Burger King ice cream cone rage to blasphemous soccer ball rage, it never ends.

Mickey Mouse RAge

They never forget and they never forgive. Which is why we must never submit.

In retaliation for wackadoodle pastor Terry Jones’s Burn a Koran Day on 9/11, a British Muslim “activist” has called for an international “Burn the Stars and Stripes Day.”

Who is the “activist?”

Why; Anjem Choudary of course:

What else is new: Muslim initiates “Burn the Stars and Stripes Day”

Anjem Choudary

Update: Pastor cancels burning, says mosque moving

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The pastor planning to burn Qurans on the Sept. 11 anniversary said Thursday that he had called off the event after being given assurances that the Muslim group seeking to build an Islamic center near the World Trade Center site would move the project.  Jones also said he would travel to New York on Saturday to meet with officials of the mosque project. Jones insisted,  however, that he had spoken to the imam, and “I have his word that he will move the mosque to a different location.”  (MSNBC)

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Today’s Weasel Roundup:

Fox News Won’t Cover Quran Burning

Breaking: Pastor Calls Off Quran Burning If Ground Zero Mosque Moves..Update: Burning Cancelled, Pastor Claims GZM Has Agreed to Move Location?…Update II: Mosque Developers Say No Deal Was Made

Ruh-Roh: Second U.S. Pastor Announces He Plans to Burn the Koran on September 11th…

U.S. State Department Warns Americans Overseas: You Might Want to Avoid Any Rampaging Islamic Mobs You Come Across…

Colin Powell: “The Terrorists Will Win” If We Don’t Build a Giant Victory Mosque Next to Ground Zero… (tie this affirmative action turkey and Peanut Khadr in a big sack  and then beat the crap out of ’em. You’d never fail to hit the right one…)

"Jesus never carried protest signs or staged book-burnings…"

Jesus would cry his heart out if he knew that his religion attracts such degenerated fools:

But why worry?

CAIR Vows to Replace 200 Burned Qurans with 200,000…

Spare us the cowardly excuses and stop pandering!

Muslim POTUS Hussein Obama urges Terry Jones to back off:

Pressure mounts in U.S. against Koran-burning plan (Al Reuters)

Obama asks Florida pastor to call off Qur’an-burning: “You could have serious violence in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan”

Pastor Terry Jones, right, of the Dove World Outreach Center arrives at a news conference with an armed escort in Gainesville, Fla., Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2010. Jones stated that he is going forward with a scheduled burning of copies of the Quran at his church on Saturday, Sept. 11

If Obama is against it, Jones must be doing something right:

“This country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance.”

That’s why Jones ought to be able to do what he wants.

That’s why Jones should burn any damn book he wants to burn.

He could have said, and should have said, that while he disagrees with the idea of burning the Qur’an, he would defend the liberty of Americans and the principle of freedom of expression. He could have said that anyone who murders an innocent person in Pakistan or Afghanistan or anywhere else because of this is entirely responsible for the murder, and Terry Jones and the other Qur’an-burners bear no responsibility for the actions of others. He could have said that to threaten violence and to commit acts of violence because of this is irrational, it’s madness — and, for that matter, it confirms the image of Islam as a religion of violence that Obama himself is so anxious to refute.

Instead, he surrendered American principles and semaphored once again that violent intimidation works.

“Obama implores minister to call off Quran burning,” from AP, September 9 (via Jihad Watch)

…”If he’s listening, I hope he understands that what he’s proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans,” Obama said. “That this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance.”

That’s why Jones ought to be able to do what he wants.

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I am a Dutch citizen and extremely worried about the ultra rightwing upcoming of morons like Rev.Terry Jones.I saw him this morning on BBC 1 and listening to him I found a S.African accent,is he a S.African? In the Netherlands we also have a MP Geert Wilders who is send by Israel’s zionists as Mr.Lieberman is a great friend of his.They all talk about freedom why is it not so that freedom is not for Moslims? We live in a very dangerous world.Israel is a great threat to worldpeace.
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Any Idea Why Australia Needs a Middle Eastern Crime Squad?

Geehad Ghazi shot Constable Bill Crews, 26,  in the head during a drug raid   in Bankstown last night. Constable Bill Crews is dead. Mr Ghazi was one of two men arrested.  According to court documents, he was  in possession of a small silver barreled gun with a brown wooden handle, believed to be a CZ52 model, without a permit or license. (The Australian) H/T Mullah

Andrew Bolt:

Why is a Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad needed?

This tragic death will have political ramifications. For a start, something went seriously wrong with our immigration program if a whole police squad must now be dedicated to the crimes of just one ethnic group:


THE police officer shot in the head during a drug raid last night has lost his fight for life.

William Crews, 26, a constable attached to the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad, died in hospital earlier this morning, it has been confirmed…

Constable Crews was taking part in a search warrant relating to the sale of prohibited drugs when a number of shots were fired from an apartment block in Cairds Ave, Bankstown, just after 9pm.

Bolt doesn’t allow any comments on this post for ‘legal reasons’. Feel free to comment here!


Christians baaad, Muslim proselytizing: goooood!

Conservatives playing into hands of MSM narrative over “Burn a Koran Day”

Why has this issue gotten so much attention? The ONLY news that should have EVER gotten attention is not “Burn a Koran Day”, it’s the REACTION of Islamists threatening suicide bombings over this stupid publicity stunt.

But instead, we are out in full force not paying any attention to the EXTREME reaction to it, but rather the act itself.

The Dove World Outreach Center is a tiny cult church…50 people, burning some Korans. Big deal! (More from Gateway)

Flashback # 1: US army burns Bibles in Afghanistan – 20 May 09

Flashback # 2: TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.

In an Islamic country they would have been ripped in peaces by a Muselmanic mob…..

Flashback # 3: ‘Palestinians’ used Bible as toilet paper

Why weren’t they arrested?

Back in June, four Christians were arrested in Michigan for passing out leaflets at an Arab festival. Remember this? The Christians were arraigned and are being represented by the same brilliant legal team that brought my free speech lawsuit against Detroit, the Thomas More Law Center.

Yesterday, Muslims were proselytizing and passing out Islamic leaflets at a fair in Minnesota. The AP plays it this way: Muslims Take to Minn. State Fair to Repair Image.   The police did nothing. Why two sets of rules for Muslims and non-Muslims? Sharia rules America now?

(Islamic law rules America, Atlas Shrugs)

But it gets worse, much worse:

Islamic supremacists, dhimmis plead with Justice Department to deny free speech to anti-jihadists

Note first of all the conflation of “anti-Muslim rhetoric” with actual crimes like the stabbing of the taxi driver and the fire at the mosque in Tennessee, despite the fact that those who are speaking out against the jihad and Islamic supremacism have consistently disavowed and opposed violence and vigilantism. Note also the hysterical reaction to the Qur’an burning in Florida. This illustrates what I have noted here many times: Islamic supremacists want and need hate crimes against Muslims, as they will attempt to use them to shut down all legitimate opposition to the jihad and Islamic supremacism, and to tar all their opponents as advocates of violence and hatred.

It is likely that this appeal, although the DOJ made no official comment, fell on fertile ground in the Obama Justice Department, given Obama’s long-standing tendency to appoint foes of the freedom of speech to influential positions: Kagan, Sotomayor, Koh, Sunstein, Genachowski, etc. etc. etc.

“Anti-Muslim Rhetoric: Free Speech or Hate Speech? Faith Coalition Calls on DOJ to Take Public Stance Against Anti-Muslim Rhetoric,” by John R. Parkinson for ABC News, August 31:

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