"Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman, but in doing so, they insult the prophet"

Just to prepare you better when you run into some Muslims who’ll tell you that “stoning is not in the Koran”….

Six months later, there have been no arrests in the stoning death of a young Afghan couple who had eloped. One will recall that this was the case where Afghanistan’s president, Hamid Karzai, condemned the execution without trial, but did not say a wordabout the method of execution. Our moderate “Friend and Ally” would not condemn stoning as he tried to win the favor of clerics who want the worst of Sharia’s punishments enforced.

There is a video at the link to the report, with the predictable shouts of “Allahu akbar.” “Afghan police pledge justice for Taliban stoning,” by Quentin Sommerville for BBCNews, January 26 via JW:

Thanks to Vlad Tepes: BBC Stoning Afghan Jan 27 2011

The men who stoned a couple to death in north Afghanistan will be brought to justice, say officials, after footage of the killings came to light.

The man and woman were accused of adultery in the district of Dashte Archi in Kunduz province last August.

Hundreds of people attended the stoning but no-one was charged. The area is still under Taliban control.

After viewing the footage, regional police chief Gen Daoud Daoud said those responsible could be recognised.

“Special police investigators will be sent there, we will find them and they will be brought to justice,” he told the BBC.

A mobile phone recording of the killings has only just been seen by Afghan and Nato officials. Most of the video is too graphic to be shown.

The video begins with Siddqa, a 25-year-old woman, standing waist-deep in a hole in the ground.

She is entirely hidden in a blue burka. Hundreds of men from the village are gathered as two mullahs pass sentence. As Taliban fighters look on, the sentence is passed and she is found guilty of adultery.

The stoning lasts two minutes. Hundreds of rocks – some larger than a man’s fist – are thrown at her head and body. She tries to crawl out of the hole, but is beaten back by the stones. A boulder is then thrown at her head, her burka is soaked in blood, and she collapses inside the hole.

Incredibly Siddqa was still alive. The mullahs are heard saying she should be left alone. But a Taliban fighter steps forward with a rifle and she is shot three times.

Then her lover, Khayyam, is brought to the crowd. His hands are tied behind his back. Before he is blindfolded he looks into the mobile phone camera. He appears defiant.

The attack on him is even more ferocious. His body, lying face down, jerks as the rocks meet their target. He is heard to be crying, but is soon silent.

The couple had earlier eloped to Pakistan, but were lured back with the false promise that they would not be harmed.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid defended the sentencing.

In a telephone interview he said: “Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law.

“There are people who call it inhuman – but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country.”…

This is curious: the paraphrase here does not match the translated quotation in the video, which does not include the part about the Qur’an.

Stoning is not in the Qur’an as we know it, of course, but that does not mean Islam is off the hook. Apologists willingly (and deceitfully) give the impression of Islam as asola scriptura affair. It helps to create an image of the Qur’an as uncreated, complete unto itself, and not dependent on the cultural and temporal context of 7th-century Arabia. But the Qur’an-only movement within Islam is a small, heretical group. Nonetheless, there is this intriguing hadith:

Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him” (Sahih Bukhari 8.82.816).

Muhammad carried out stonings. Islamic law prescribes them. And apologists’ insistence on ignoring or downplaying that ensures the future suffering of men and women like Khayyam and Siddiqa. Clearly, they would rather live with that than, as the Taliban spokesman said above, “insult the prophet.”

Yep. Insulting the profit gets you killed.

In core Islamic texts, Muhammad repeatedly ordered stoning:

In the most canonical hadith collection, Sahih Bukhari:

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 805:Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah Al-Ansari:
A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah’s Apostle and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and bore witness four times against himself. Allah’s Apostle [Muhammad] ordered him to be stoned to deathas he was a married Person.

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 809:
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah’s Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. “What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?” They replied, “Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya.” ‘Abdullah bin Salam said, “O Allah’s Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah.” The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, “Lift up your hand.” Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah’s Apostle [Muhammad] ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn ‘Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 813:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
When Ma’iz bin Malik came to the Prophet (in order to confess), the Prophet said to him, “Probably you have only kissed (the lady), or winked, or looked at her?” He said, “No, O Allah’s Apostle!” The Prophet said, using no euphemism, “Did you have sexual intercourse with her?” The narrator added: At that, (i.e. after his confession) the Prophet [Muhammad] ordered that he be stoned (to death).

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 815:
Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid:
While we were with the Prophet [Muhammad], a man stood up and said (to the Prophet), “I beseech you by Allah, that you should judge us according to Allah’s Laws.” Then the man’s opponent who was wiser than him, got up saying (to Allah’s Apostle) “Judge us according to Allah’s Law and kindly allow me (to speak).” The Prophet said, “‘Speak.” He said, “My son was a laborer working for this man and he committed an illegal sexual intercourse with his wife, and I gave one-hundred sheep and a slave as a ransom for my son’s sin. Then I asked a learned man about this case and he informed me that my son should receive one hundred lashes and be exiled for one year, and the man’s wife should be stoned to death.” The Prophet [Muhammad] said, “By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, I will judge you according to the Laws of Allah. Your one-hundred sheep and the slave are to be returned to you, and your son has to receive one-hundred lashes and be exiled for one year. O Unais! Go to the wife of this man, and if she confesses, then stone her to death.” Unais went to her and she confessed. He then stoned her to death.

Volume 8, Book 82, Number 817:
[excerpt from long hadith]Narrated Ibn Abbas:
…Allah sent Muhammad with the Truth and revealed the Holy Book to him, and among what Allah revealed, was the Verse of the Rajam (the stoning of married person (male & female) who commits illegal sexual intercourse, and we did recite this Verse and understood and memorized it. Allah’s Apostle [Muhammad] did carry out the punishment of stoning and so did we after him. I am afraid that after a long time has passed, somebody will say, ‘By Allah, we do not find the Verse of the Rajam in Allah’s Book,’ and thus they will go astray by leaving an obligation which Allah has revealed. And the punishment of the Rajam is to be inflicted to any married person (male & female), who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if the required evidence is available or there is conception or confession…

In the Qur’an “Allah” says at least 25 times that Muhammad is to be obeyed. That is one reason why most Muslim scholars accept the Bukhari hadiths and a few other hadith collections as authoritative for Muslims: canonical hadiths show what Muhammad did and said, permitted and forbade.

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3 thoughts on “"Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman, but in doing so, they insult the prophet"”

  1. Jesus said ‘Let those amongst you without sin cast the first stones’ so it seems there are many many pure of heart in Afghanistan . Or should that be HYPOCRITES.

  2. These vile creatures are so backward and animalistic that l believe apes will be playing Mozart on pianos before these dicks are dragged kicking and screaming out of the 6th century.

    l don’t understand why America and the coalition countries are bothering to try to bring civility to this shithole. Why not just bomb it out of existence along with the whole Middle East??

  3. If this is “humanity”, Doucet has got rocks in her head, too

    Once again, the Taliban challenges us to remember the words of BBC presenter Lyse Doucet:

    A BBC presenter has attacked coverage of Afghanistan’s ongoing war, claiming TV reporters are not covering the ‘humanity of the Taliban‘.

    Lyse Doucet, a presenter and correspondent on BBC World News, was speaking at a discussion of TV reporting of the war in the country…

    Asked what was missing in British coverage, she added: ‘It may sound odd but the humanity of the Taliban, because the Taliban are a wide, very diverse group of people.”

    The latest example of humanity Taliban-style is here. Please don’t click if scenes of a couple being stoned to death will disturb you.


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