Not Funny Stuff: the Rape of Infidel Women is About Power….

Mark Steyn delivers withering assault against pro mass immigration liberals who openly mocked the young victims of gang rape by Muslim migrants in Europe.

Mark Steyn (CRAIG GLOVER/The London Free Press)

I am ashamed to admit I didn’t grasp the importance of the Munk Debate held last week in Toronto. But now I do, and I feel it is my duty to share this particular exchange so as to try to win some hearts and minds over to the side of sanity, prudence and security when it comes to the question of mass Muslim refugee resettlement and immigration to Europe and North America.

Held in Toronto’s Roy Thompson Hall on Friday, April 1, the Munk Debate put forward the following motion concerning refugee policy: “Be it resolved: Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” Arguing the pro side: Louise Arbour, former UN Human Rights commissioner, and historian Simon Schama. Opposed to the motion: journalist Mark Steyn and Britain’s UKIP party leader Nigel Farage. 

The Munk tradition is to poll the audience before and again after the debate. The first poll was 77% in favor of the motion, 23% opposed. After the debate, the pro side dropped to 55% and the con leapt up to 45%, a huge, 22% shift, revealing how a dynamic elaboration of the facts of the case can persuade people of the dangers of welcoming mass numbers from an alien culture into Western societies.

Barbara Kay writing at the National Post described what she considered to be the point at which the opinion of the room began to shift towards the “con” position:

To some audience members… Steyn dwelt excessively on the sexual crimes we’ve all read about in Cologne, Hamburg, Malmö and elsewhere. So it apparently seemed to Arbour and Schama, because they mocked Steyn for it in their rebuttals. Arbour sneered at both Steyn and Farage as “newborn feminists” (she got a laugh), while Schama disgraced himself with “I’m just struck by how obsessed with sex these two guys are, actually. It’s a bit sad, really.” (That got a very big laugh.) I took one look at Steyn’s glowering face after that remark — Schama will regret having said it to his dying day, I know it — and I kind of felt sorry for those two liberals, because I knew what was coming.


Steyn slowly rose and riposted, in a tone of withering contempt, “I wasn’t going to do funny stuff. I was going to be deadly serious. (But) I’m slightly amazed at Simon’s ability to get big laughs on gang rape.” Vigorous applause. He went on, “Mme Arbour scoffs at the ‘newfound feminists.’ I’m not much of a feminist, but I draw the line at a three year old … and a seven year old getting raped.” Vigorous applause.

I think that was the moment those of the audience who did change their minds got it…

Watch the video below (or here) to get the full impact of Steyn’s response. The expressions of the audience behind him reveal their shock at his thundering recitation of mass rapes of innocent European children by Muslim migrant savages in public parks, swimming pools, and even in a city hall. 

Virginia Hale at Breitbart News presents a fine synopsis of the evening, highlighting this archetypal example of the blindness of the EU’s immigration policy, cited by Steyn:

Revealing the horrifying realities on the ground in Europe, as a result of the presence of more than a million refugees, Steyn described how “a fortnight after acing a training course on treating women with respect” a 15 year old Afghan dragged a Belgian caterer at a refugee centre down to the basement and raped her.

The dark irony, duly noted by Steyn, is that Mme Arbour was “the first prosecutor to charge rape as a crime against humanity and the author of several reports on rape as a ‘weapon of war’.” As Mark Steyn puts it in the exchange below, citing Arbour’s influence in the Sudan genocide, “rape is not about sex, but about power.”

In other words, according to Mme Arbour’s own definitions, when Muslims rape European women and children — in public places in their home towns — it needs to be seen as an act of war, and indeed a war crime, and should be dealt with as such.

Hale also reports on Nigel Farage’s powerful argumentation concerning the existential threat posed to European civilization:

“There is no one on this side of the argument saying that all Muslims are bad” but that their arrival in such large numbers has resulted in the “once-sleepy city of Malmo” now being the “rape capital of Europe.”

Responding to Simon Schama’s assumption that, because previous waves of migrants had assimilated, this wave would be no different Farage echoed his shocking claims last year of some Muslim migrants posing a threat to the security of European nations, differentiating the current refugee crisis from “any other migratory or refugee wave in the history of mankind” in that “never before have we had a fifth column living in our communities that hates us, wants to kill us and wants to overturn our complete way of life.”

Tragically, most people don’t know what is happening, but as the Munk debate proved, when we have the opportunity to present the truth, we have a very strong likelihood of winning people over to the side of reason and righteousness and the defense of Western civilization. The debate win by Steyn and Farage swayed the audience from almost 80% in favor of mass Muslim immigration to a nearly even split with the opposed. 

Barbara Kay concludes:

The pro side was happy to talk about “your tired, your poor, your huddled masses,” because they’re abstract images, which liberals like… They’re feel-good words but that shouldn’t make the poet who wrote them in 1883 the author of global refugee legislation in 2016.

A civilized culture, which takes centuries of painstaking collaborative work to create, can be easily destroyed, and quickly. This is a reality conservatives understand, but liberals, consumed by guilt for past collective sins, and morally disarmed before the Other, choose to ignore. The Munk debate illuminated this important distinction, and for a change, realism won.

Mark Steyn closes his rebuttal by asserting that the diabolical epidemic of Muslim migrants mass raping European children in public places cuts to “the heart of the question.” Indeed it does, for the 21st century West is finally being confronted with precisely why conquered Christians in the 7th century considered the invading Muslims a chastisement for their sins, Islam to be religion non grataand Muhammad the forerunner of the antichrist

Video of the pivotal exchange below. Watch Mark Steyn’s closing statement here. Watch the full debate here. Share widely.

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Does Islam Allow Muslims to Rape Female Captives and Slave Girls?

Answering Muslims

Critics of Islam and Sharia frequently claim that the Qur’anallows Muslim men to rape their female captives and slave girls (i.e. those “whom their right hands possess”). Westernized Muslims, however, are appalled at the thought of their religion allowing rape, so they insist that Islam prohibits this practice. Unfortunately, Islam isn’t defined by Westernized Muslims; it’s defined by Allah and Muhammadin the Qur’an and the Hadith. So instead of inventing a religion based on the feelings of Westernized Muslims and calling it “Islam,” let’s turn to the Qur’an and the Hadith to see what Allah and Muhammad have to say about this issue.

As Muhammad’s armies raided town after town, they captured many women, who would often be sold or traded. Yet, since the Muslim men were a long way from their wives, they needed wisdom from Allah to guide them in their treatment of their female captives. Allah revealed:

Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame. 

Qur’an 70:22-30—Not so those devoted to Prayer—those who remain steadfast to their prayer; and those in whose wealth is a recognized right for the (needy) who asks and him who is prevented (for some reason from asking); and those who hold to the truth of the Day Of Judgement; and those who fear the displeasure of their Lord—for their Lord’s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility—and those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess—for (then) they are not to be blamed.

Notice that Allah commands Muslims to abstain from sex, except with their wives and with “those whom their right hands possess.” Allah gave the same sexual rights to Muhammad:

Qur’an 33:50—O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war …

The Muslim practice of having sex with captured women is reported often in the Hadith, where we learn that Muhammad’s only objection to sex with captives was his condemnation of birth control.

Sahih Muslim 3371—We went out with Allah’s Messenger on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger, and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4138—We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Bun Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus [same as “azl” above]. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: “How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: “It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

Sahih Muslim 3384—Jabir bin Abdullah reported that a person asked Allah’s Apostle saying: I have a slave-girl and I practice azl with her, whereupon Allah’s Messenger said: This cannot prevent that which Allah has decreed. The person then came (after some time) and said: Messenger of Allah, the slave-girl about whom I talked to you has conceived, whereupon Allah’s Messenger said: I am the servant of Allah and His Messenger.

Clearly, Muslims were taking full advantage of Muhammad’s teachings about female captives and slave girls. Nevertheless, Muslims eventually captured women along with their husbands, so they wondered if Allah would allow them to have sex with these married captives (since adultery is otherwise forbidden in Islam).

Allah gives his answer in the Qur’an:

Qur’an 4:24—Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess …

Here’s the historical background for this verse:

Sunan Abu Dawud 2150—The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.

Thus, the Qur’an allows men to have sex with their female captives and slave girls, and the Hadith provides numerous examples of how this was practiced. Yet we must follow this fact through to its logical conclusion. Muslims decided to have sex with their captives, whom they were later going to sell. Some of these captives were women whose husbands and families had been slaughtered by Muslims. Others had husbands who had been captured by Muslims. Would these women gladly consent to sexual intercourse with men who had killed their families or taken their families captive, and who were simply going to sell them into slavery when they arrived at the next town? Certainly not. But since the Qur’an and Muhammad authorized sex with these women (and said nothing about seeking their permission), we can only conclude that Muhammad allowed his followers to rape their captives.

For more on women in Islam, click here.

To see some of the practical consequences of Muhammad’s teachings about raping captives, watch this:

5 thoughts on “Not Funny Stuff: the Rape of Infidel Women is About Power….”

  1. STUNNING………


    One of the most unbelievable aspects of the debate in Toronto with Mark Steyn and others, is the pedigree of the woman, Louise Arbour.

    Consider for a few minutes her background. Recently Louise Arbour hailed from the office of the UN High Commission on Human Rights.

    Before that Louise Arbour was a sitting justice on the Supreme Court of Canada with that position prefaced by her work in the highest courts in Ontario. Arbour also worked as a chief prosecutor on the International Criminal Court. You can read up on her work through Wikipedia.

    Louise Arbour is a Marxist, at the very least a hard Left Liberal. Arbour’s love of the Communist totalitarian ideologies are evident in her judicial decisions and have made their way through to her children.

    Her children including, Emelie Taman, are fanatics of Marxist ideology. Emelie Taman, rode her mother’s coattails and worked as a federal prosecutor with the Canadian government until she was fired when she ran for political office in the federal election with the Marxist NDP party. She lost her election bid.

    You can look Emelie Taman up on Twitter, where she gushes about hobnobbing with the new “Syrian Terrorists” that are flooding into Canada. Sickening really.

    This Marxism is rife throughout the highest levels of the Canadian judicial system and is clearly both activism bordering on treason and criminality.

    So then, it is no wonder that Louise Arbour, self-loathing, politically correct Marxist White-Guilt junkie, finds the gang rape and sexual assaults of ethnically white Anglo-saxon European women to be so incredibly amusing. I wonder how she will feel when her daughter Emilie winds up raped, sodomized and butchered by her Muslim, migrant masters, her battered and bruised rotting corpse fertilizing flowers behind the courthouse at 301 Wellington Street in Ottawa, Ontario?

    Poetic justice no?

    Anyway, the video below relates to those East German secret police, the Stasi. It was from the ranks of the Stasi that Angela Merkel came.

    The echoes of the NKVD, the Khmer Rouge, the KGB, and the Stasi amongst others, are now ringing with greater clarity and all of this to the joy of the Marxists and Muslims.

    So pour a coffee, and spend 20 minutes with the video, its illuminating and illustrates the character and sheer malevolence and murderous undercurrents that move many of our politicians, police officers, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats along as the West creeps closer to the Marxist/Islamic abyss.

    Food for thought

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada


    A quote from a sign hanging in a West Point classroom.

    …..“When civilized man can no longer stand the horrors of war and declares that he will no longer fight, then he will surely be killed or enslaved by the uncivilized.”…..

    Have we reached that point?

    Are we no longer willing to do what needs to be done to secure victory?”

    This sign, this quotation, summarizes our current spirit, the current esprit de corps of our Western nations and of our culture. It summarizes the color and texture of each brick that paves the road to our complete enslavement as a people at the hands of the Muslim and our complete annihilation as a culture at the hands of the political ideology of Islam.

    Truly we have become, in virtually every sense, cowards. We are cowards being led to our slaughter by treasonous fools.

    Evidence of this on the evening news as we are lied to and manipulated by the talking heads of Marxist media. Even as we know we are being lied to, we sit indifferent and indecisive.

    Evidence of this in our courts as Muslim criminals are deified and turned loose, their outrageous crimes ignored, their outrageous crimes unpunished.

    Evidence of this in our parliaments and legislatures as laws protecting those who terrorize us and destroy our cities, towns and the entirety of our culture are given victim status and licence to continue their destruction anew.

    Evidence of this in our police stations and our intelligence agencies as unable to even speak the name of the Muslim, unable to even speak the name of the ideology that seeks our destruction, these servants of the law persecute and vilify decent, law abiding, patriotic citizens all while they protect the vulgar, criminal filth that is the Muslim.

    Evidence as our humiliation explodes all around us in the West and Europe as our cities have been turned into Islamic latrines, as our women and children are raped and murdered and all while we stand defenceless while those elected or appointed with our stewardship and protection have openly abandoned us and eagerly lick the asses of the Muslim.

    All around us, from the filth that clamours at the gates of our cities, to those Marxist traitors within who walk amongst us, we truly are under attack and have little time left to find our courage, to rise and defend ourselves, our families, our countrymen, our culture and our countries.

    I have long been condemned for telling the truth. I have long been referred to as an extremist who is inciting violence. This, all this, for simply telling the truth. This, all of this, for simply pointing out the emperors’ nudity.

    So, once again, here is more lucidity, more truth. You can call it what you will.

    Would we be in the position we are in currently if citizens rose collectively to arrest and imprison judges, police chiefs, politicians and senior bureaucrats who are clearly and actively engaged in collaboration with the Muslim?

    Would we be in the position we are in if those judges, police chiefs, politicians and senior bureaucrats we arrested were stood before quasi-military tribunals, tried and convicted of treason and then summarily executed?

    Would we be in the position we are in if the Marxist media personalities, the Marxist academia were to suffer the same fate as the judges and the police chiefs?

    If not collectively, would all of the aforementioned not be effective if achieved by small groups of men and women who refuse to watch their culture and countries destroyed?

    Would we be in the position we are in if all persons engaged in the act of wearing a weaponized/politized article of clothing like the hijab or niqab resulted in either their assassination or their arrest and then their being stripped of citizenship and deported penniless?

    Would we be in the position we are in if every mosque, every Muslim friendship center, every Muslim community liaison, every Muslim school, was torched and burned to the ground with those who opposed the torching shot to death?

    Would we be in the position we are in if every retail location that sold “halal” products was torched and burned to the ground?

    Would we be in the position we are in if every lawyer who, in any way, acted in defense of a Muslim or Islamic interests, if every “immigration center” promoting mass/Muslim immigration was targeted with offices, vehicles and residences burned to the ground?

    We all know the answers to these questions and so does the Muslim.

    And we should know and understand what the Muslim does; that until being a Muslim and spreading Islam in Western countries is a death or deportation sentence, we will continue to lose and the Muslim will continue to win.

    Its not called incitement of violence.

    Its not called Islamophobia.

    Its not called extremism.

    Its called “The Will To Win”

    Never forget that.

    Remember that when the next Muslim slaughterhouse takes place in an airport or public venue.

    Remember that the next time your young women and children are brutally raped by Muslim filth.

    Its called “The Will To Win”.

    Never forget that. Ever.

    Arm yourselves now !

    Organize now !

    Defend yourselves now !

    Food for thought, catalyst for action.

    Don Laird
    Alberta, Canada

    1. Liberals habitually get rich from criminal negligence; their motto is: “THERE’S NO MONEY IN SOLUTIONS!” Even when the solution might save them from death itself, they will still hope to avoid death by sacrificing others first or agreeing to slavery.

  3. From Plunn Tenets

    We are submitting already;

    1. not publishing cartoons of Mohammed after CH – submission
    2. changing the dates of exams to avoid Islamic religious festivals – submission
    3. suspension of critical thinking on Islam and ignoring Political Islam – submission
    4. Religious hatred act – submission
    5. instigation as aspects of Sharia Law in the UK – submission
    6. Calling Rotherham abusers ‘Asian’ – submission
    7. Calling Islam a religion of Peace and allowing Islamic preachers to enter churches and further tell us Islam is a religion of Peace – submission
    8. Not teaching the history of Political Islam in our schools – submission

    And this

    Christian NHS worker who gave religious book to Muslim loses appeal over ruling

  4. The ever-ignorant criminally negligent former Supreme Court justice Louis Arbour wonders why those muslims would pay money to emigrate to infidel lands, while even the UN admits over 70% of today’s “migrants” are NOT from Syria or from any other war-zone/armed conflict AT ALL.

    Had she done even the tiniest bit of basic research into the subject, she might have learned why they want to emigrate while leaving their women & kids behind:

    (From this very site, earlier:)

    Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order to bring Islam there and is considered in Islam to be a holy and revered action. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah.” (4:100) So if a Muslim dies in the process, that’s essentially the same as being a suicide bomber, his reward is automatic. This explains the great eagerness to undertake such a perilous journey.

    Muhammad and his followers emigrated from Mecca to Yathrib/Medina in 622 CE. It was there that he became a military leader.

    This is where all the commands to commit violence against unbelievers originate from. It’s important to note that the Islamic calendar marks this as the beginning of Islam.

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