Jamaican Islamic Community Welcomes 7/7 Hate Preacher
* Unfortunately he was not a ‘martyr’- he might have got himself an even bigger funeral…
Before being deported from Britain back to his native Jamaica, Islamic hate preacher Abdullah El-Faisal told young British Muslims it was their duty to kill non-believers, Jews, Hindus and Westerners, urging them to adopt a “jihad mentality”. He also promised schoolboys that they would be rewarded with “72 virgins in paradise” if they died in a holy war. He was the “mentor” for one of the July 7 London bombers.
And he’s being welcomed back to Jamaica with open arms by the Islamic community: Islamic community extends olive branch to el-Faisal.
JAMAICA’S Muslims have made it clear they will welcome reputed hate preacher Abdullah el-Faisal into the community unless he proves himself unworthy, following his deportation to the island last Friday.
“As a Muslim coming back to Jamaica, we welcome him. We welcome any and every Muslim who come here as long as they abide by the rules and regulations that are stipulated,” president of the Islamic Council of Jamaica (ICJ) Mustafa Muhammad told the Sunday Observer.
At the same time, he said they were relieved to learn of el-Faisal’s release from prison.“As a member of Muslim family in general, we are somewhat relieved that he has been released from prison. Just like any family member who has gone to prison and is released, family members will experience joy and relief that he is out,” Muhammad said.
* Prislam,- prison da’awa: The fastest way to find ‘reverts’
“It is now up to that person (who was in prison) to prove whether their going to prison was justified and whether they have learned anything from the term they spent in prison. And actions will prove stronger than words,” he added.
One thought on “Jamaica: Down the way where the nights are gay….”
The Qurâ€™an and Science: Do They Agree?
By Paul Martin
Introduction: Issues in Islam.
The Qurâ€™an is to Muslims the infallible word of God
that they assert has been perfectly preserved on a
tablet in heaven. They believe these words were given
to Muhammad their prophet by the angel Gabriel. See
Qurâ€™an 10:15, 37; 56:77-79; 69:44-48; 85:21-22. It is
unchangeable, inerrant, and many Muslims believe in
the implementation of Islamic shariah law because of
their view that it is God’s unchangeable word.
The Qurâ€™an teaches hand amputation for petty theft
(Qurâ€™an 5:38), that a man can own and have sex with
slave girls (2:221; 4:3, 24-28; 23:5-6; 33:50-52;
70:30), allows child marriages (65:4-5, see N.J.
Dawood’s footnote in his translation), and calls for
war to be made on Jews and Christians until they are
either defeated or subjected to humiliating lowliness
Since the Qurâ€™an makes some very high claims to
infallibility, then a single error would render the
whole dogmatic position as fallacious. When the Qurâ€™an
is held up to the scrutiny of science it does not fare
very well, because the Qurâ€™an and science give two
very descriptions of the earth. Much of the style of
the Qurâ€™an also, is not written like symbolic
descriptions one would find in the Bible’s Psalm or
Job about the earth, but is supposedly God’s clear
revelations to Muhammad for his instruction about the
world around him.
But what further complicates this issue is the claim
by numerous Muslim apologists that the Qurâ€™an is full
of scientific miracles and insights long before they
were discovered, which is proof that the Qurâ€™an is
God’s word. Numerous people have converted to Islam
after reading these misleading booklets and videos.
Even some secular scientists (or so we are told) have
been quoted by the Muslims on their amazement on the
‘scientific accuracy’ of the Qurâ€™an.
The Qurâ€™an has many miscellaneous scientific errors on
a number of different issues.
Qurâ€™an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100
grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is
more than obviously false. It brings into question the
scientific accuracy of the Qurâ€™an and whether the
Qurâ€™an is really addressing scientific issues.
Qurâ€™an 27:18, tells the story of a talking ant in the
time of King Solomon. Ants do not communicates with
words, but with scent and smell, etc. This is a
scientific error, regarding nature.
Muslims, have responded to Christians by saying that
the Bible is even more absurd where Daniel saw a
vision of some talking horns on a beast. There is a
difference, however. Daniel was looking at a symbolic,
apocalyptic vision that is not meant to be taken
literally. The Qurâ€™an 27:18, however, is talking about
an historical incident involving, Solomon, whom the
Muslims believe was a real prophet in a real event.
These are not the only absurdities of talking in the
teachings of Muhammad. In the Hadith (traditions of
what Muhammad said and did), we find more. We are told
that stones talked to Muhammad (Bukhari 1, p. vii),
that food talked to Muhammad while he was eating it
(Bukhari 4:779) and a tree cried because Muhammad
would not preach near it (Bukhari 2:41; 4:783). After
Muhammad comforted the tree, it stopped crying (ibid).
For this to be true, stones, trees and food would have
to have at least lungs, a respiratory system, vocal
cords and a tongue. One has to wonder if you could be
more absurd than this?
The Qurâ€™an 5:6, says that if there is no water to
clean oneself with, you should use sand as a
substitute for water. Firstly this is very unhygienic,
since sand is full of dust and is unclean. Even if the
God of the Qurâ€™an had not been addressing scientific
issues, one would wonder why he would not know that
sand is unhygienic and dangerous for one’s health,
thus warning them against it.
The Qurâ€™an has many genetic myths about how humans are
born, etc. The Qurâ€™an 86:6-7 says that semen comes
from between a man’s backbone and ribs. We know today
from biology studies that semen comes from the male
genitalia, so once again, a very inaccurate statement
coming from the Qurâ€™an.
In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from
the angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the
father sometimes, and other times the mother. The
angel told him that it depends on which parent reaches
their sexual climax first during conception (Bukhari
4:546). This has been disproved by genetics.
The Qurâ€™an also tells us that the prophet Jesus was
created from dust (3:59) in Mary’s womb (19:20-23).
Why she did not get tuberculosis with the dust in her
body seems even more miraculous.
The Qurâ€™an has other errors of nature, where 51:49,
says of life in creation, “And of everything we have
created pairs that ye may reflect” (see also 43:12;
50:7). So for all animals they are created in pairs.
This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous
species produce asexually, not in pairs.
The Qurâ€™an also contains scientific anachronisms of
longevity. The Qurâ€™an 18:25 tells the story of some
men who slept in a cave for 309 years. Why they did
not die very soon due to dehydration and lack of
sunlight is not explained.
The Qurâ€™an 37:143-144 also talks of how the prophet
Jonah was swallowed by the fish, this god in the
Qurâ€™an says, “Had it not been that he repented and
glorified Allah, he would certainly have remained
inside the fish till the day of resurrection.” We know
from scientific, biological studies, that the fish
(had it not vomited him up) would have digested Jonah,
which would have seen him dead and defecated out of
the fish. As for the fish, long before the day of
resurrection it would have been well and truly dead
and rotted away.
In the Hadith, Muhammad explains the cause of fever
and the reason for high body temperatures – they come
from the fire of hell (Bukhari 4:483, 486). From
today’s medical studies, we know the real cause of
The most common cause of fevers is viral infections
like influenza, as seen in a cold or sore throat. Most
other fevers (in temperate climates) are from
bacteria, which affect the respiratory system, bowels,
urinary tract and intestines. Fevers in tropical
climates are caused by protozoa (parasites larger than
The earth is spread out like a carpet.
The Qurâ€™an 20:53, talks of God who has, “…made the
earth for you like a carpet spread out…” (see also
71:19). This could hardly be a clearer way of
describing the earth as flat. The Qurâ€™an repeatedly
refers to how the earth is “wide” or “spread out”
(Qurâ€™an 13:3; 15:19; 18:7; 19:6; 21:30; 35:40; 41:10;
43:10; 50:7; 51:48; 55:10; 78:6; 79:30; 88:20), which
is not the language used to describe a round sphere.
Heavy mountains hold the earth in place.
Just as one might use some bricks to hold the corners
of a sheet on the ground in place on a windy day, so
we are told of the role that mountains play in keeping
the earth stable. The Qurâ€™an 21:31, “And we have set
on earth mountains standing firm, lest it should
So far we are the told that the earth is spread out
like a carpet with heavy mountains to hold it in
But further evidence opens up that the Qurâ€™an is
indeed talking about a flat earth. Qurâ€™an 18:47 says,
“On that day we shall remove the mountains, and thou
wilt see the earth as a level stretch…” (see also
20:104-107). In other words 18:47 & 20:107 are saying
that once the mountains are removed, we will see to
the end of the world, which is flat.
The sky could fall on our heads!
This god also reassures us in the Qurâ€™an 22:65, that
“He witholds the sky from falling on the earth except
by his leave: for Allah is most kind and most merciful
to man.” The Qurâ€™an is saying that the sky is a hard
opaque object that could fall and injure/kill us. This
is certainly how it appeared to ancient people, but
not what we know from scientific evidence. Perhaps
this god knew that the earth’s atmosphere was just
thin air and a mixture of gasses. But this would make
him into a deceiving god, making an empty threat and
telling blatant lies!
The Qurâ€™an 19:90 also says that in regard to
blasphemies against Islam, the skies are about to
burst. The Qurâ€™an 34:9 this god says of the pagans,
“If we wished, we could cause the earth to swallow
them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon
them” (see also 52:44). The concept of a hard sky is
also seen in the way it is described as a canopy
(Qurâ€™an 2:22; 21:32; 40:64; 79:28), that will one day
be ripped apart (Qurâ€™an 55:37; 69:16; 73:18; 78:19;
The Qurâ€™an 70:8 tells us that one day the sky will be
like molten brass. And one day the sky will be rolled
up (21:104; 39:67).
Then the Qurâ€™an unlocks to us a mystery about how the
heavens and earth were made. In a rhetorical challenge
to the pagans who rejected Islam, this god says, “Do
not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth
were joined together (as one unit of creation), before
we clove them asunder?”
So far we are told that the earth is flat, the sky is
hard and these two hard, opaque objects were once
joined together, but this god pulled them apart, which
explains the distance between the earth and sky. This
is similar to the creation myths of the Australian
Aborigines and New Zealand Maoris.
The sun moves around the earth.
The Qurâ€™an talks of the earth in terms as if it were
stationary, with the sun and stars moving around the
earth (Qurâ€™an 2:258; 21:33; 36:40; 52:49; 53:1). “It
is he who created the night and the day, and the sun
and the moon: all (celestial bodies) swim along, each
in it’s rounded course” (21:33). We know today that
the sun is far bigger than the earth, and is drawing
the round earth in it’s orbit.
Where does the sun set?
Even more conclusive evidence arrives that the Qurâ€™an
teaches a flat earth, because the sun is very small (a
lot smaller than the earth), and it rises and sets on
our flat earth!
The Qurâ€™an 18:83-98 tells the story of a pious Muslim,
Zulqarnain (whom many Muslim commentators think is
Alexander the Great). One day while traveling along,
we find that, “Until, when, he reached the setting of
the sun, he found it to set in a spring of murky
water” (18:86). So Zulqarnain found the sun sets in a
spring of murky water. This is saying that the earth
is flat and the sun is very small.
This is an error of astronomical proportions. Shall I
belabor the obvious? The sun is far bigger than the
earth and if it were any closer we would all burn up.
Many Muslims interpret this to mean that he merely
looked at the sun from the angle of it setting past a
pond of murky water, but this is not what the text
Why Zulqarnain did not go blind or suffer serious eye
damage is not explained, because he still enough
eyesight to travel to the other end of the world. He
traveled, “Until, when he came to the rising of the
sun, he found it rising on a people for whom we had
provided no covering protection against the sun”
(18:90). In other words he found the sun rising on a
scorched people, because they were nearer to the sun
than anyone else! This is a clear denial of the round
earth, where for every morning for everyone on the
whole earth, the sun’s rays are closer at midday than
In the Hadith, Muhammad asked some people, “”Do you
know where this sun goes?” I said, “Allah and his
Apostle know best.” He said, It goes and asks
permission to prostrate, and it is allowed, and one
day it, as if being ordered to return whence it came,
then it will rise from the west.”” (Bukhari 9:520). He
is erroneously describing the ‘rising’ and ‘setting’
of the sun as supernatural phenomena. Not only that,
he tells us that the sun actually asks this god for
permission to rise and set! Furthermore, in this
context, Muhammad was not reciting poetry, but was
giving the Muslims clear instruction on how the sun
rises and sets.
This concept is further supported by the Qurâ€™an
telling us, “And the sun runs into a resting place…”
(Qurâ€™an 36:38). We know today from science and
astronomy that it is the earth that spins, not the
Pray facing Mecca.
The flat-earth concept is seen in the fact that
Muslims have to pray five times a day facing Mecca. To
pray with you back to Mecca, would be sacrilegious.
They are not allowed to even go to the toilet facing
Mecca, either (Bukhari 1:146-151). From a flat-earth
viewpoint, this makes sense. But we know today, being
on a spherical globe, that if you pray facing Mecca,
you have your back to Mecca at the same time (and
As if we have not come across enough absurdities
already, the Qurâ€™an and Hadith teach some monumental
errors of science that any Muslim would be
hard-pressed to defend. These scientific errors make a
mountain out of a molehill.
In the Hadith, Muhammad referred to the growth of a
baby horse: “…as anyone of you brings up a baby
horse, till it becomes like a mountain” (Bukhari
9:525B). Muhammad is talking plain nonsense and may
have been hallucinating.
We are also told that when Muhammad saw the mountain
of Uhud, he said, “This is the mountain that loves and
is loved by us” (Bukhari 9:433). Muhammad taught that
mountains have feelings, emotions and personality. We
know today that they are dead, senseless rock and
mineral formations pushed up through continental drift
and shaped often by volcanoes.
The Qurâ€™an tells us that once the hills praised his
god (Qurâ€™an 38:18), and that the mountains were afraid
(33:72). It talks of the mountains as if they were
hollow and will one day collapse in Qurâ€™an 19:90;
56:5; Bukhari 9:75.
The Qurâ€™an also has some very shady myths about
clouds. The Qurâ€™an 30:24, says that this god breaks
the clouds into fragments so that rain can fall. We
know from science and meteorology that clouds are
actually water droplets formed through evaporation and
not hard objects. In 41:11, the clouds also talked to
this god and said, “We do come together, in willing
From astronomical studies, we know more about the
universe than ever before. There are billions of stars
in countless galaxies, of which more are being
discovered all the time. The closest start is 4.5
light years away and the furtherest stars and galaxies
are countless billions of light years away. Some these
stars are very small (such as the white dwarf which is
roughly the size of the earth), while others are
massively larger than the sun.
If these big stars were closer to earth, they would
drag probably our whole solar system into their orbit,
and the heat would destroy life on earth. Our very
survival depends on these stars keeping their
Let us examine, then, what the Qurâ€™an tells us about
the stars and where they are in distance from the
earth. We are told that above the earth there are
seven heavens/firmaments, each above the other (Qurâ€™an
2:29; 37:6-7; 67:3; 71:15). But we are then told that
the sun and the stars are inside the lowest heaven
(37:6-7; 67:5; 78:12-13)!
The Qurâ€™an is telling us that the stars are very
small, and they are inside the sky, or at least the
equivalent distance that the sun is from the earth.
The lowest heaven means the closest part to the earth.
Nevertheless, the Qurâ€™an’s reference to seven heavens
has been hailed by numerous Muslims as a great
scientific insight. Harun Yahya, a popular Muslim
apologist well known for his creationist,
anti-evolution booklets and assertions that the Qurâ€™an
has scientific miracles, looks at this. In his
Miracles of the Qurâ€™an, he claims that the Qurâ€™an is
giving us insightful scientific instruction on what
scientists only discovered in the 20th century: that
the earth’s atmosphere has seven layers (i.e., the
stratosphere, ionosphere, exosphere, etc). However,
Yahya completely ignores that the Qurâ€™an also says, to
be consistent with such a claim, that stars we see are
to be found in the lowest levels of our atmosphere!
But we find even more errors regarding stars that
ought to be of interest to astronomers. We read that
this god has, “…set out constellations in the
heavens… And moreover we have guarded them from
every accursed Satan. But any that gains a hearing by
stealth, is pursued by a fiery comet…” (Qurâ€™an
15:16-19; see also 37:6-7; 67:5). The Qurâ€™an is
telling us that stars and comets chase after evil
spirits. It seems strange in any case, that these evil
spirits (that Islam teaches are there to cause man
mischief) are also millions of light years away,
letting themselves be chased by enormous stars and
comets, when they could be perfectly safe on earth.
The Qurâ€™an tells us about the prophet Abraham. Like
Jews and Christians, they believe he was an historical
character. Muslims assert that the Qurâ€™an is the most
accurate historical record of all prophets. After
telling us that Abraham survived the flood that was in
Noah’s time (Qurâ€™an 37:79-83), we read that, “Then did
he cast a glance at the Stars, and he said, “I am
indeed sick at heart.” So they turned away from him
and departed” (37:88-90). Because Abraham felt sick,
the stars all fled from his presence.
Is the moon made of green cheese?
The Qurâ€™an says that moon was cut in half (54:1). The
Hadith confirms this fairytale, by repeatedly telling
us that Muhammad cut the moon in half (Bukhari
4:830-832; 5:208-211; 6:387-390). How Muhammad
actually did this, we are not told. Why no one else in
the world saw it we are not told. How he managed to
cut through hundreds of miles of solid rock we are not
told. How it put it together again, we are not told.
Personally, I find it easier to believe that a cow
jumped over the moon.
Are their Scientific insights in the Qurâ€™an?
Harun Yahya confidently shows numerous alleged
scientific insights, which annulled by the fact that
other parts of the Qurâ€™an contradict him, or he is
going beyond what the Qurâ€™anic text is actually
saying. He quotes the Qurâ€™an 27:88, which says that
just as clouds pass away, so will mountains. Yahya
then asserts that the Qurâ€™an is teaching continental
drift and mountains being pushed upwards – but this is
not what the text is saying.
He quotes the Qurâ€™an 75:4, where this god says in
regard to the resurrection, “Nay, We are able to put
together in perfect order the very tips of his
fingers.” He then thinks that the Qurâ€™an is giving
insight into what was discovered centuries later –
that we all have unique fingerprints, with no two
alike. But is this really what the text is actually
Can you stomach this?
In a debate against Christianity, Islamic apologist,
Ahmed Deedat asserted that Muslims were the most
hygienic people on earth. Perhaps they are today, but
their founder was not, and should be considered
neither a role model nor an example of being hygienic.
Muhammad said that camel’s urine should be drank as
medicine for those who are feeling sick (Bukhari
1:234). He sometimes spat on his clothes (1:242). He
let people catch his own spit and then rub it on their
faces and skin (3:891). To someone else, he ejected a
mouthful of water on them (1:188). After washing
himself, Muhammad would give his dirty water to his
followers to drink and smear themselves with
The Qurâ€™an gives a challenge to those who would refute
it: “Do they not ponder on the Qurâ€™an? Had it been
from other than Allah, they would surely have found
therein much discrepancy” (4:82).
As regarding science, as well as history, we find
therein much discrepancy. Both contradictions within
the Qurâ€™an, as well as scientific errors bring into
question that really wrote it. What could not
necessarily be refuted in Muhammad’s time has been
refuted in our age of science and advanced knowledge.
Further online reading:
Refutes the myth of scientific insights regarding
embryology in the Qurâ€™an.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Contra Gives a
list of errors, internal contradictions as well as
scientific errors in the Qurâ€™an.
Reveals that even in modern times, numerous Muslims
have defended the flat-earth theory, based on what the
http://thriceholy.net/ A Trinity defense site, with a
thorough section on Islam doing a critical study of
the Qurâ€™an and its textual errors.
Denis Giron, an atheist, takes a hard critical look at
scientific errors in Islam.
critical, scholarly examination of the Qurâ€™anic text.
Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Meaning of the Illustrious
Qur’an. New Dehli, India: Kitabbhavan, 2000.
Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, The Translation of the
Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari (nine volumes). Islamic
University, Medina Al-Munawarra. Dar AHYA Us-Sunnah,
Harun Yahya, Miracles of the Qurâ€™an, video production.
Birmingham, UK: IPC, Islamic Vision.
William Campbell, The Qurâ€™an and the Bible in light of
history and science, 2nd edition. Upper Darby: Middle
East Resources, 2002.
There are several translations of the Qurâ€™an, most of
whom are by Muslims with a certain degree of trying to
translate embarrassing passages to cover over errors.
For example Yusuf Ali’s translation (which I have been
using for the article) frequently adds words in
brackets, which are not found in the text. Where the
Qurâ€™an recommends that men should “beat them” [their
wives], Yusuf Ali translates “beat them (lightly)”
which is not in the text, etc.
The best translation that is the most open-minded is
N.J. Dawood’s The Koran, published by Penguin
Classics. He has helpful footnotes that explain
problems with the Qurâ€™an (aka Koran), and avoids the
deceptive bias found in most other translations
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