As regards Muslims, and lying, along the way various posters here with direct personal experience have shared some remarkable observations.
Here’s one:
“I once talked to a Saudi about the importance of telling the truth. He responded: “Only a fool tells the truth!” Funny that!”
– Posted by: Mark Alexander at February 19, 2006 11:23 PM
Here’s another:
I have a friend who was raised a moslem in pakistian. He no longer believes in god period. But he stated to me any nonmoslem who thinks he can be friends with a moslem is a fool. Never belive what they say. To lie or deceive a nonmoslem is a great honor…
– Posted by: ecil_man at July 8, 2005 7:52 AM
And another:
“I am always amused at the unsophisticated way the Muslim men I know and read about, can lie – for example, that British troops are raping muslim women.
‘Although I will not draw broad generalizations, the Muslim acquaintances I know will try lie after lie to me, until one of them sticks and I am deceived. They are not talking politics or religion, just everyday subjects.
‘The general derision that Muslim men hold for the rest of us causes them to underestimate our powers of reason, and over-estimate our naivete.
‘Does anyone else have this experience of Muslim statements that would be comical, if they were not delivered with such seriousness?
‘If the Muslims in general become better liars, we will all be in trouble.”
– Posted by: VoiceOfReason at July 14, 2005 7:54 AM
And another:
“One gets to develop, in listening to Muslim voices, a third ear:
‘it’s not what they say, because that is totally unreliable, whether it be lies, taqiyya, bad things or pleasant statements;
‘ it’s not how they say it, because it is usually angry or upset –
‘and that seems to be endemic with the religion of peace;
‘but it’s rather – how is the speaker trying to influence or manipulate you? – and here the analysis better be good, because your life depends on it…”
Posted by: dgene at September 19, 2005 10:19 PM
And finally, from an Englishman, a Londoner:
“…my experience, and that of my colleagues, is that they [Muslims] can never, never, never tell the truth.
‘Ask them the time and they will lie for the sheer pleasure of having lied.
‘Their testimony, even from the seemingly nicest of them, will always contain more lies than truth. It seems that they just can’t help themselves.
‘All the time, it’s like dealing with a two year old caught raiding the biscuit barrel.
‘It just gets very wearing after all these years and we tend to use insulting words more to protect our own sanity than to insult – it’s some sort of distancing mechanism, I think, – otherwise we would all go mad because of their childish and immature approach to the world.
‘According to some teachers who I know, the children and the adolescents are just the same – constitutionally incapable of telling the truth or, worse, relating to the real world…
– Posted by: Certiorari at January 13, 2006 10:38 AM
Oh, and here’s another case, recounted by a poster here, of a Muslim flat-out lying in order to accuse a non-Muslim (the poster in question) of having mistreated her.
“Years ago I used to work in Minneapolis in the security department for a large bank.
“It was my job to photograph people for their company IDs.
” I’d never met a muslim before that job and soon one showed up for a company ID complete with a head scarf (hijab?).
” Anyway, our policy was that people couldn’t wear anything on their head when taking their ID picture.
“Not realizing the significance of the scarf, I asked her to remove it.
“She didn’t want to, but eventually took it off herself .
“Later, my boss asked me about it because *she complained that I had forcibly grabbed it and “ripped” it off her head* {nota bene – dda}.
“Never trusted Muslims since. {do you blame him/ her? – dda}.
“And yes, she did get a picture with her scarf and we had to delete the old one.
– Posted by: redshirt at August 15, 2006 6:41 PM
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 at December 20, 2008 1:10 AM
I agree with all the above statements about Muslims telling lies.
I am an ex-pat living in a Muslim country for over four years now.
I find that they automaticaly tell a lie than the truth.
Strange people to deal with, I always keep them at arms length,
When you let them into your life they use then abuse you.
After generation up generation of lying and training their children to lie, many Moslem (Arabs, in particular), have become pathological liars.
Heh…. I was lied to by the leader of the largest Islamic organization in the world, the Secretary General of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, Ekemleddin Ihsanoglu himself, while he was visiting in Helsinki Finland.
“No Mulslim good or bad can be anti-Semitic. This is a theory, this is not the case”
MULLAH, FOLKS MAY WISH TO CHECK THIS OUT.
IF TRUE (SOURCE BBC WORLD 20/12/2008) IT MAY BE THAT HINDU OR MUSLUM EXTREMISTS ARE INVOLVED, BUT IT IS MORE LIKELY LATTER.
Christmas and New Year beach parties in tourist resorts in the Indian state of Goa have been banned because of security concerns, say the authorities.
Having travelled around the world many times and visited and lived in many Islamic countries both in Asia and Africa I can tell you that the level of corruption and deceitful business dealing is greater in any Muslim country than anywhere else with the possible exception of China , India and South Africa who all run them very close. But at least India has the excuse that many many Muslims live there . At the top of the corruption list is invariably Nigeria and Indonesia.
To the series of testimonies by Infidels who had encountered Muslim lying, which testimonies I gleaned from the comments floor at jihadwatch and then compiled for a posting there, now kindly reproduced by sheik on this webpage, I can add two further pieces of evidence.
First; in my own personal experience, the only Muslim I have ever had much to do with turned out to be a liar – and, indeed, consummate conwoman – through-and-through. At the time I didn’t know anything much of what I know now. I knew about jihad; I knew about Muslim theology (enough to know that this person was a pretty slack Muslim, religious-observance wise); but I knew sweet damn-all about how b****y good they are at lying for personal advantage. And the *rage* she spewed when I managed to catch her out in a major, barefaced lie, and confronted her with it!
Second piece of evidence: a personal friend who used to practise as a lawyer, on one occasion had a Muslim client. After bitter experience – discovering, in court, that this client had lied flat-out about a central element in the case – my friend told me that from that moment on, he assumed prima facie that *anything* this client-from-hell told him, was a lie unless it could definitely be proven otherwise by evidence from a non-Muslim source.