Retreat From the "Nick?" Not So Fast…..


FORMER sex discrimination commissioner Pru Goward says genital mutilation of girls is widespread as doctors here consider the practice.

By Padraic Murphy and Kate Sikora/Daily Telegraph

“There’s not been one prosecution. People coming here as a refugee or a migrant need to have it explained to them it attracts a jail sentence, we will prosecute you and if they don’t like that they should apply to go to another country.”

The Royal Australian New Zealand College of Obstetricians will next month discuss backing “ritual nicks”, a modified form of genital mutilation.

With the rise in Somali and Sudanese living in Australia, doctors are seeing more cases of young girls, and women, needing surgery after illegal operations. Backers of “ritual nick” said it was a superficial procedure leaving no long-term damage.

RANZCOG secretary Gino Pecoraro said the policy would be discussed at next month’s Women’s Health Committee meeting.

“We will need to start to think about [its introduction] but we would have to speak to community leaders from Australia,” Dr Pecoraro said.

“If a nick could meet the cultural needs of a particular woman, then it might save her from going through what can really be drastic surgery.

“But we need to make sure we do not legitimise the ritualistic maiming of children.”

But many are outraged, some saying a “ritual nick” is still child abuse and legitimises female mutilation.

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American Academy of Pediatrics reverses course, no longer accepts “symbolic” female genital mutilation

Good news — on a subject that should not have been up for any form of compromise in the first place — but good news, nonetheless, in an update on this story. “Pediatricians now reject all female genital cutting,” by Stephanie Chen for CNN (thanks to JW):

(CNN) — The American Academy of Pediatrics has rescinded a controversial policy statement raising the idea that doctors in some communities should be able to substitute demands for female genital cutting with a harmless clitoral “pricking” procedure.

Harmless? Compared to infibulation or clitoridectomy, but what about the psychological impact of what remains a ritualized sexual assault at the hands of one’s community — and almost with the approval of the AAP?

And then there are the principles that are at stake: Equal protection under the law (where “culture” is not an excuse for trauma), and of course, that tenet of the Hippocratic Oath: “First do no harm.” And cutting without a medical reason certainly constitutes “harm.”

“We retracted the policy because it is important that the world health community understands the AAP is totally opposed to all forms of female genital cutting, both here in the U.S. and anywhere else in the world,” said AAP President Judith S. Palfrey.

The contentious policy statement, issued in April, had condemned the practice of female genital cutting overall. But a small portion of statement suggesting the pricking procedure riled U.S. advocacy groups and survivors of female genital cutting.

In the April statement, the group raised the idea that some physicians should be able to prick or nick a girl’s clitoral skin in order to “satisfy cultural requirements.”The group likened the nick to an ear piercing.

So, if it’s that much of a harmless non-event, did everyone at the AAP who thought that would be okay line up to get their “nick?”

On Thursday the AAP stated the group will not condone doctors to provide any kind of “clitoral nick.” The AAP also clarified nicking a girl or woman’s genitals is forbidden under a 1996 federal law banning female genital mutilation.

“I cried and told them how grateful I am,” said Soraya Mire, a Somali filmmaker and survivor of female genital cutting. “Thank you for understanding us survivors and hearing our voices.”

Equality Now, an international advocacy group fighting to end female genital cutting, echoed a similarly appreciative response.

“We welcome the AAP’s decision to withdraw its 2010 policy statement on FGM,” said Lakshmi Anantnarayan, a spokeswoman at Equality Now. “This is a crucial step forward in the movement to raise awareness about female genital mutilation….

Female genital mutilation “is part of the Sunna of the Prophet”

9 thoughts on “Retreat From the "Nick?" Not So Fast…..”

  1. “There’s not been one prosecution. …”

    Contrast with the prosecutions & “rights commission” sheikdowns of people infringing on muslim “rights”. Equality before the law?

  2. aaaaaaaarggh! Fuck this barbarism! Fuck islam. Ohhh shit!! Another reason why islam should be restricted!!! Poor girls have no rights?

  3. Thanks for the photos Sheik.
    I guess I won’t be eating lunch now, perhaps no dinner either.

    This practise could be stopped by our governments immigration policies. All they would have to say is that no child, once admitted to our country cannot leave our country for genital mutilation. Then stress that if that child is taken secretively from our country for this practise and, upon re-entry to our country, it is found that the child has undergone the procedure against our laws of our country, they will be deported back to their counry of origin.

    We accept these “refugees” if they can be called refugees, as people who wish to leave the opressive regimes that impose these kinds of laws. If they do not abide by our laws they are not welcome here.
    Send that to your Member of Parliament or Congressman/Woman.

  4. I agree with both of you, sadly they are Muslims and they will do what they want to do, after all they believe they are Lords of the Earth. The law has not stopped them in other areas such as the drug trade, multiple marriages, lying in our courts, stealing, rebirthing cars, knee capping, the list is too long to reiterate all of them.

    What is wrong is that we have these sadists unleashed on us. We were never asked what we want and how we want our tax dollars spent, and I guarantee they would not approve of any more migrants form Islamic countries. If just one boatload is sent back to the country of origin – this will stop them in their tracks. While ever we stick to the present policy on boarder jumping we will never address the problem. Giving in to these people is not an option. It looks as though our government would rather see a civil war to wake them up.

  5. Here’s an idea worth trying. If any Muslim cleric or man is seen condoning or not condemning fgm, we should give them a ritual nick of their penis – just a few cms cut off.

  6. Just to make things clearer FGM is not approved in Islam. You can google that if you do not believe.

    I can see some hate comments of people who no nothing about Islam, which is bad.

    If necessary one can just cut ” the skin” on top of the clit.. no more than that. Clit and other parts should be intact.

    hope this helped

    Hope this help some of you to understand

  7. Read the article. Closely:

    Female genital mutilation “is part of the Sunna of the Prophet”


    Which religion has a law that makes clitoridectomy obligatory?
    Which religion has a prophet who endorsed clitoridectomy?
    Which religion has hadiths that support clitoridectomy/circumcision of females
    The spread of which religion is most closely related to the spread of clitoridectomy/FGM?
    Which religion carries out most clitoridectomies the world over?
    Which religion has an Australian mufti that supports clitoridectomy?

    The Arabic version of the law states:

    “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris (bazr in Arabic)- (this is called HufaaD). ” (Reliance of the Traveller, a classical manual of Islamic sacred law in Arabic with facing English text, commentary and appendices edited and translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller (1994) p59.

    * Note the English version falsely translates bazr as ‘prepuce ‘ of the clitoris!!)

  8. You know, I can forgive a lot of things in this world. I frequently say, “Hey, I don’t agree with this, because I don’t understand it, but that doesn’t mean the other side is wrong. It just means we think differently.

    This is not one of those times.

    There is one act in this world that turns my stomach like no other, and that is this revolting abuse of children (or women) enforced my men and their God damn mythical books. I’m so tried of people having a vivid dream and claiming to be God’s brand new mouth-piece. If God’s so freaken powerful, I’m sure he could talk to us on his own, without using some nut-job man to speak for him.

    Wake up morons. Come join us in the 21st century. This cruel old ritual has no place here. Women are free now, like us. Stop oppressing them. I can’t fathom what kind of insecure, small-dicked, loser needs to do this to a woman to make themselves feel like big men. You make me sick.


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