Tag: Indonesia

“Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” – Goldthwait H. Dorr

Spencer: A Muslim leader condemns “Islamist extremism,” but does he go far enough?

Spencer: In “Muslim Leader Condemns Terrorism” at FrontPage this morning, I note that an Islamic leader in Long Island is “angry” about the actions of jihadist Ibrahim Vinas. But what is he really going to do about it?

Nayyar Imam, leader of the Islamic Association of Long Island, is angry. “We are really angry — this is the last thing that we need to happen to us.” What has angered him is that Bryant Neal “Ibrahim” Vinas, a convert to Islam and member of his mosque, has been charged with involvement in an attack on an American military base in Afghanistan and providing information about the New York City subway system to Al-Qaeda operatives.Said Imam: “We definitely condemn this kind of action and if anyone in the mosque knew about this they would have been the first one to report it to the authorities.” He complained that “one bad apple is bringing a negative image to the whole community.” Muslims, Imam continued, “are Americans too and they are concerned about American security and American safety just as much as everyone else. We don’t want one bad apple to paint a false picture of the thousands and thousands of Muslims who live on Long Island.” According to Long Island’s Times Beacon Record Media, “the religious leader said Islamist extremism is universally frowned upon at the Selden mosque. ‘If it comes up in a discussion, it always comes in the negative sense.’” Said Vinas, “I keep an eye like a hawk on this place.”  *Please read Hugh Fitzgerald’s comment at the bottom of this page…

Yeah, sure, Judge, I wrote a book about jihad, but I don’t believe in it anymore, and anyway, I was depressed

He was depressed, you see, and unskilled, and that led him to Misunderstand Islam. The judicial rulings in “Provisions of the Rules of Jihad”? Ignore them. They are of no importance. He was depressed, remember. He was unskilled. And he doesn’t believe any of it, either. “Jihad book editor ‘renounced terrorism,'” by Katelyn Catanzariti for AAP, July 31 (thanks to all who sent this in):

A Sydney man who produced a do-it-yourself jihad book did not realise he was committing a crime but has since renounced terrorism and violence, his sentencing judge has been told. More from JW

News links to other RoP activities:

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• (Kuwait) Gang-Rapists Released on Pledge of Good Conduct…
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Khairil Azhar from the Jakarta Post wonders about the “proper interpretation of Islamic teachings”

Since Islamic clerics have the utmost responsibility in the proper interpretation of Islamic teachings, along with their concerns for a peaceful Indonesia and nonviolent Islam, they need to encourage Muslim preachers, especially during Friday prayers, to promote peace and love for others and not hatred and violence.

Khairil  is trying to tell us that there are some “misunderstanders of Islam” who misinterpret the texts of the holy Koran and take the sura’s “out of context”– a painful exercise indeed. Trouble is, our Western media whores can never get enough of these lies and shallow attempts to deflect away from the essential teachings of Islam….

Read it all

Continue reading Whitewashing Islam for Western Consumption, 3 examples

Newscom.au

The Ngruki school was co-founded by Abu Bakar Bashir, the spiritual head of Jemaah Islamiyah which is blamed for dozens of bombings across Indonesia since the late 1990s, including the 2002 Bali blasts which killed 202 people.

* Hmm. Just yesterday ol’Bucktooth called the perpetrators of the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotel bombings in Jakarta  “enemies of Islam”…. 

I know you been waiting for this: striking terror in the hearts of the Infidels is un-Islamic!

Muselmanic Pretzel Logic:

“Terrorism is not a religion and so it is not correct to say Muslims were the mastermind of the bombings”

Now if they could only convince the Islamic terrorists. “Indonesian Muslim leaders urge not to link terror with Islam,” fromXinhua, July 20 (thanks to LGF2), via JW

Any condemnation of terror  by these headbangers only applies to terror (law-enforcement)  that terrorizes muhammadans and is “counterproductive” to the spread of islam and shariah.

• Indonesia TV identifies Jakarta hotel bombing suspect
• UPDATE 1-Indonesia police say bomb attacks have JI hallmark
• Seven foreigners killed in Jakarta hotel bombs: media
• Two more hotels receive bomb threat in Indonesia

Forensic officials examine the ruins of a bombed restaurant in the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Jakarta July 18,2009.

JAKARTA, July 20 (Xinhua) — Various Muslim leaders and organizations in Indonesia are calling on all sides not to link Islam to terror attacks which killed nine people and injured more than 50 others in Jakarta last week.”Resorting to terror was not Islamic. Islam does not adopt that terror behavior. So, the bomb terror such as the bombings of two top hotels in South Jakarta on Friday has no link with Islam,” Antara news agency quoted chairman of the Islamic organization Basri Bermanda as saying on Sunday.

Well, that settles that. But it does leave the lingering question of why the Muslims who committed these terror attacks believed that they were justified in doing so because of various Islamic texts and teachings.

The Marriott hotel and the Ritz-Carlton hotel in southern Jakarta were hit by two explosions on Friday Morning, killing at least nine people and injuring more than 50 others, including some foreigners.A similar call was also made by the country’s largest Muslim organization, the Nahdhatul Ulama (NU).

“Terrorism is not a religion and so it is not correct to say Muslims were the mastermind of the bombings,” the chairman of NU, Hasyim Muzadi, said.

Both NU and the second largest Islamic organization Muhammadiyah condemned the barbaric attacks.

“The terrorist act was inhumane,” Muhammadiyah chief Din Syamsuddin said.

Secretary General of the Islamic Community Forum (FUI) M Alkhaththath also called for all sides not to link the bombings with Islam.

Thus leaving only the Islamic terrorists as the ones linking the bombings with Islam. (all 15 million members of JI must be feeling pretty lonely now…)

“One should not link the bomb blasts to the Muslim community and the recent presidential elections,” the FUI secretary general said on Sunday.Tarbiyah Islamiyah Organization chairman Basri Bermanda said that terrorist acts were against Islam but they could be done by quarters using the label of Islam or by non-Muslims who wanted to tarnish the image of Islam. He therefore refused to accept that Islam was identical with the symbol of violence and cruelty. “Islam teaches peace and goodness,” he said.

Peace, goodness, and striking terror into the hearts of the Infidels: “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies” — Qur’an 8:60. If Bermanda had alluded to this sort of thing and explained it honestly, while working against the beliefs and attitudes that such passages foster within the Islamic community, his words about peace and goodness might have been a little more compelling.

On the occasion, the organization’s central executive board strongly condemned the bombings of the two hotels, saying the attacks could have been done with an intention to create chaos, political and economic instability.Even Muslim cleric Abubakar Ba’asyir who was once described as a hardliner, said the perpetrators of the JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotel bombings in Jakarta were “enemies of Islam”….

* Of course: how could I forget! Ol’Bucktooth Bashir! He was “once described as a hardliner?” What made him become a softliner? Prison for 20 months? I rather doubt it.

But perhaps its Sura 8:17. YUSUFALI: It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah. There you go: it works everytime and absolves the Muslims of any guilt!

Indonesian Islamic leader names suicide bomber

An Islamic leader in Indonesia has named the suicide bomber who attacked a hotel in Jakarta on Friday.

Abderrahman Assegaf heads an Islamic organisation named the Indonesian Muslim Movement with a claimed membership of 15 million. 

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JEMAAH Islamiah remains the most dangerous terrorist group in Southeast Asia. Although responsibility for these latest attacks in Jakarta remains unclear at this time, the co-ordinated, simultaneous bombings of Western hotels carry the hallmarks of a JI attack.

•  Carl Ungerer/The Australian/Meet JI terror at the prison gate

Who would have thought: Foreign jihadists are living in Gaza!

If this surprises you, you have fallen for the propagandists’ claim that the Palestinian Arabs are waging a nationalist struggle for land, and not an Islamic jihad against Israel. Even Hamas, although it openly proclaims that it is fighting an Islamic jihad, realizes that this news could damage its cause in the eyes of its useful idiots in the international Left, and so issues a furious denial.

“Israel: Foreign Jihadists Are Living in Gaza,” from AP, July 19 (thanks to JW):

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Andrew Bolt – Monday, July 20, 09 

Quote of the Day:

Islam is not Christianity…  Islam is the religion of agitation, revolution, blood, liberation and martyrdom.

-Sheikh Morteza Motahari, quoted in “Islamic Movements in the Last One Hundred Years,” Tehran, 1979

The Australian:  Drew Warne-Smith 

A MAN in a suit and baseball cap with a backpack on his chest and carrying a suitcase walks awkwardly into the Ritz-Carlton’s sprawling Airlangga restaurant just before 8am.

Moments later, the hotel’s closed-circuit television footage shows the large open doorway to the restaurant erupt with glass, debris and smoke as a bomb is detonated inside at 7.57am. Shards of glass rain down on the streets of Jakarta’s upmarket Mega Kuningan business district like confetti.

* Counter Jihad has video of a suicide bomber blowing himself up, here

The flickering footage from the second floor of the luxury hotel shows people in the doorway engulfed by the blast, while others dive for cover behind furniture and walls.

In the chaos of a smoke-filled foyer, some scramble for the exits and others help drag out the bloodied and battered bodies, not all of them alive. More>>

 The usual BS from the Muslims at Islam Online: 

johnboy: NO Muslim could do such a thing.  It must be George Bush, the CIA and mossad since they have the most to gain.  Obama knew about it and approved it.   Think about it… 

No jews were present at either hotel.  Could they have been warned by the mossad and CIA?  George Bush was in hiding.  Could this all be planned by the USA and Israel?  Yes.  Think about it…no muslim would committ a suicide bombing, only a jew would would do such a thing,  They have so much to gain. (Really? And what would that be?/ed)

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Update: 

an expat eyewitness explained that the Ritz is the most secure and well-protected hotel in Indonesia, and couldn’t understand how this could ever possibly have happened. As became clear later on, the terrorist(s) didn’t walk in the building this morning: they already were in there, staying on the 18th floor.

And from ANTARA News: Yudhoyono says terrorists targeted him

Carl in J’lem on Christopher Hitchens latest piece on suicide bombers:

What the events of the last few years prove is that there is a military answer to terrorism. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

‘Palestinians’ became suicide bombers out of a desire for religious martyrdom. One did not see the children of the leadership becoming suicide bombers – usually it was the less intelligent people or the ones who were headed for death by ‘honor killing‘ anyway.